This article states that Shkil Afridi, the man who helped CIA in locating Osama Bin Ladin Has been imprisoned for 30 years on charges of treason. I think he deserves it for co-operating with CIA without consent from Pak govrn and it will help deter other people like him. What are your thoughts?
what actions would make is so that people like partydevil wouldn't hate our guts so badly.
-stop trying to force your laws on other countrys and their people. -stop being self-centered and learn what others has to offer. actualy just lose the whole. we are better then any1 els attitude. because your not.
just those 2 things and i'm fair game.
partydevil to actually say, "Hey, I'm glad the U.S. stepped in here."
sure their have been done good deeds. ive never denied that.
If the US wants to do so, it will only ultimately harm itself more than the rest, given that the economic focus of the world is going to shift to the East in the next few decades.
The focus will likely shift East, yes, but it hasn't yet. And that is the key. America's GDP is 24% of the worlds, and is a large consumer of Chinese goods. Economic turmoil in the EU means that China is more dependent upon America to purchase its goods then ever before.
So if America was to 100% isolate itself today, then the world economy would take a gargantuan hit that it would not likely recover. If America isolated itself fifty years from now, who would even notice?
Libya: Gaddafi. He was bombing his own people, and then civil war broke out. We aided the rebels not only because we didn't like Gaddafi, but also because he was bombing civilian populations.
To be fair, the former French president Sarkozy helped the decision to intervene in Libya, for his own publicity of course. Did anyone of you, French or American, stay after your intervention and make sure the country would continue on the path you encouraged, or didn't you give a f*** and forgot about all the weapons you shipped and left in this country full of age-old conflicts and grudges? You intervened, you can pat yourself on the shoulder, everything happening from now on isn't your problem anymore...
All this to say: intervention is one thing, the way it is done is another (and I'm not even daring to enter the minefield of possible actual reasons for interventions). Just like the intervention this thread is about: noone says it was wrong to do it, but the way you did it was problematic, diplomatically.
Economic turmoil in the EU means that China is more dependent upon America to purchase its goods then ever before.
Actually, China's growth is not/can be not as export oriented as people think it is. In China, national savings amount to almost half of GDP. For a developing economy, high saving in principle has the benefit of providing cheap and abundant capital that can help generate growth in employment and output.
For want of other financial investment opportunities, however, most Chinese savings end up as deposits in state-owned banks, which have done a poor job of intermediating these funds. This money has helped fuel a recent investment boom, with gross investment now amounting to about 45 percent of Chinaâs GDP. A significant fraction of this investment has been undertaken by state enterprises concentrated in a few sectors, suggesting that much of this investment may not be productive or could result in a buildup of excess capacity in those sectors.
Also, going by statistics, the EU is the largest trading partner of China, followed then by the US, and closely by Hong Kong.
If the US wants to isolate itself, China will take an initial massive hit, but it's vast population should be able to absorb the goods domestically, which will push up GDP again.
Afghanistan: Al-Qaeda had just launched 9/11 against us. We found that they had training camps in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis took care of it for us. The Afghans, ruled by the Taliban at the time, did not. So we invaded in order to destroy the terrorists which attacked our country, and we also were able to get rid of the Taliban, allow basic human rights into the country, train its military, and do overall good. Yes, there were civilian casualties, like there are in all wars. Point me to one where there have been absolutely zero civilians killed. Yes, US soldiers committed horrible crimes, however that is not representative of the government OR the population of our country at all!
Under the cold war, when soviet union invaded Afghanistan. The US supported the rebel fighters with weapons. As soon the soviet union withdrew, the US lost interest in Afghanistan, and all the aid was stopped.(abandoning it allies) Which lead to war between the different warlords. Because of all that the afghan civilians was the victims of unspeakable crimes. And that when the taliban got into power. So USA backstabbed it ally. Who fought the USA cause with they own blood. Which lead to how the taliban came to power, so USA indirectly was the reason why taliban came to power. If USA helped the country in that time (after the soviet union withdraw) everything could have been avoided. And so many lives could have been saved, and the current war would have been unnecessary.
Under the cold war, when soviet union invaded Afghanistan. The US supported the rebel fighters with weapons. As soon the soviet union withdrew, the US lost interest in Afghanistan, and all the aid was stopped.(abandoning it allies) Which lead to war between the different warlords. Because of all that the afghan civilians was the victims of unspeakable crimes. And that when the taliban got into power. So USA backstabbed it ally. Who fought the USA cause with they own blood. Which lead to how the taliban came to power, so USA indirectly was the reason why taliban came to power. If USA helped the country in that time (after the soviet union withdraw) everything could have been avoided. And so many lives could have been saved, and the current war would have been unnecessary.
I'm reminded of when NATO bombed Serbia in the early '90s.
Early '90s? They bombed us in '99. We brought down one or two of your "stealth" planes too ;D
It's really amusing seeing how Americans forget the existence of other countries oftentimes. You guys always seem to think your point of view is the only one that matters in the world. It's funny, honestly.
So using the cargo aircraft to transport goods into Afghanistan from various airfields would cost 'nothing', because the cost would have already been accounted for. Rather, it would cost nothing extra.
It's really amusing seeing how Americans forget the existence of other countries oftentimes. You guys always seem to think your point of view is the only one that matters in the world. It's funny, honestly.
I'm American and I take this offensively. I know how many countries began.
The Ottoman empire began after Mongols invaded and conquered neighboring lands and unified them.
Germany began after the Napoleonic wars ruined Germans economy and Weilmar took the throne.
Poland was made after Germany invaded nearby lands in WWI, and after their defeat they gave up their new lands, which became Poland.
India started after Britain invaded all of the little communities down there and colonized them. Years later, with the help of a man named Ghandi, Britain gave India independence as a unified country.
Austria and Hungary were split after their defeat in WWI because their economies were so badly damaged.
Israel was made a country after WWII by the allied forces as a reward for the Jews.
China was unified after many dynasties started to take the lands surrounding them, including Tibet, which is now fighting for independence.
Japan was believed to have been colonized by ancient Chinese sailors thousands of years ago.
Canada was once a colony belonging to France, but were given independence soon after America won its independence.
Mexico was a Spanish colony but revolutionized into their own country.
Haiti was a France colony but revolutionized into their own country... With a ruined colony that haunts them to this day.
Most of Central America was all of French's land until revolutions sparked one and another forming a continuous chain of independence.
India started after Britain invaded all of the little communities down there and colonized them. Years later, with the help of a man named Ghandi, Britain gave India independence as a unified country.
Actually India was there before british conquered it and was ruled by mughals.
I'm American and I take this offensively. I know how many countries began.
The Ottoman empire began after Mongols invaded and conquered neighboring lands and unified them.
No. They began as a small Islamic state that conquered the remaining Byzantine lands from 1200s to 1300s. Only in the early 1400s, did the Mongols invade that area, and even then, they were under Tamerlane, not the Mongols of Genghis Khan.
Germany began after the Napoleonic wars ruined Germans economy and Weilmar took the throne.
No. Germany only came into being when the Prussians took over most of the German lands and started a Confederation. Before this, there were already two groupings, led by the Austrians and the Prussians. However, there was no Germany before that.
Poland was made after Germany invaded nearby lands in WWI, and after their defeat they gave up their new lands, which became Poland.
No. Poland has always been a Kingdom until swallowed up by various powers in the 1600s-1700s.
India started after Britain invaded all of the little communities down there and colonized them. Years later, with the help of a man named Ghandi, Britain gave India independence as a unified country.
The concept of modern India never flourished until after the British conquest. Britain also gave them independence because of war fatigue, it was more a pragmatic solution.
Austria and Hungary were split after their defeat in WWI because their economies were so badly damaged.
No. It was more because of the Hungarian independent movement which had been emerging for the past century.
Israel was made a country after WWII by the allied forces as a reward for the Jews.
No. It was made not as a reward, but to house Jews, instead of having them flood Allied countries.
China was unified after many dynasties started to take the lands surrounding them, including Tibet, which is now fighting for independence.
Tibet has been part of China for centuries before.
Canada was once a colony belonging to France, but were given independence soon after America won its independence.
No. They were given to Britain. Only the lands south of the Great Lakes were given to America.
Mexico was a Spanish colony but revolutionized into their own country.
So far, the only roughly correct one.
Haiti was a France colony but revolutionized into their own country... With a ruined colony that haunts them to this day.
One more.
Most of Central America was all of French's land until revolutions sparked one and another forming a continuous chain of independence.
