but God had to be there to cause it.

and why actually?
why was there any need for a god?
plz. tell me, what about the big bang had absolute need for a god?

plz. tell me, what about the big bang had absolute need for a god?

He'll say "If not, then how?"
You'll say "We don't know yet."
He'll say "God makes more sense than nothing."
You'll say "It wasn't nothing. It was something. We just don't know yet."
He'll say "Then how do you know it wasn't God?"
You'll say "Why would a god be necessary?"
And it cycles.

That was indeed derived from abracadabra.

Interesting.

and why actually?
why was there any need for a god?
plz. tell me, what about the big bang had absolute need for a god?

Well because nothing can't have created it. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened. Also if God didn't do it, who did?

Also if God didn't do it, who did?

He'll say "If not, then how?"
You'll say "We don't know yet."
He'll say "God makes more sense than nothing."
You'll say "It wasn't nothing. It was something. We just don't know yet."
He'll say "Then how do you know it wasn't God?"
You'll say "Why would a god be necessary?"
And it cycles.

lets see:

Well because nothing can't have created it.

It wasn't nothing. It was something. We just don't know what.

Otherwise it wouldn't have happened.

so you know exactly how it happened? i'm interested. how did it happen and what is your evidence that it happened that way and not in a other way?

what is your undeniable proof for god?

Oxygen tank. Astronaut suit.

Next to all the mass in the universe. Gravity = max = you're dead.

Yes that's Innocent until proven Guilty. They're Legally Innocent until there is sufficient evidence to prove they're guilty.

You don't go to court when no one is accusing you. Saying that we have to provide evidence for a non-claim is saying that everyone has to go to court to prove they are innocent if we're following the same logic.

but God had to be there to cause it.

This is what we call a god of the gaps argument. Basically, we don't know, but you're assuming god without any evidence.

Know how many times in history "god" has been the answer to why/how something happened that has been definitively proven? 0.

Well because nothing can't have created it

Following this logic, God would himself need a creator. Saying he's omnipotent simply ignores the issue.

Also if God didn't do it, who did?

Why does there need to be a who?

It wasn't nothing. It was something. We just don't know what.

If you don't know what then how do you know it WASN'T God?

If you don't know what then how do you know it WASN'T God?

plz. reply to the full comments and not only the part that has been guided out already.

i ask again:
-what about the big bang had absolute need for a god?

- so you know exactly how it happened? i'm interested. how did it happen and what is your evidence that it happened that way and not in a other way?

-what is your undeniable proof for god?

-Why does there need to be a who?

Why does there need to be a who?

Okay if God didn't do it, WHAT Did.

Following this logic, God would himself need a creator. Saying he's omnipotent simply ignores the issue.

Yes. The Universe. As I stated earlier The universe created God to create the Universe to create God to Create The Universe... It's a Paradox. Simple as that.

You don't go to court when no one is accusing you. Saying that we have to provide evidence for a non-claim is saying that everyone has to go to court to prove they are innocent if we're following the same logic.

You don't understand. Someone Accuses you. You're brought to court. You're innocent until the person provides sufficient evidence to prove you Guilty. Innocent until proven Guilty.

what is your undeniable proof for god?

I don't have any. But Since you don't have undeniable proof to prove God DOESN'T exist. You can't prove that he doesn't exist.

-what about the big bang had absolute need for a god?

The fact that something needs to be created to exist. And something needs to create it.

- so you know exactly how it happened? i'm interested. how did it happen and what is your evidence that it happened that way and not in a other way?

I never said I knew exactly how it happened.

If you don't know what then how do you know it WASN'T God?

We've been over this.

We have no reason to assume it was a god, much less -your- specific god. There are hundreds of thousands of different gods over time that have had the creation of the universe attributed to them.

How about you respond to some of our statements/questions, instead of simply avoiding everything?

Harking back to page 8:

"You're the one making the claim that it was God who started it all. Since you assert that, you need evidence."

"Proof for God please."

"What's your denomination?"