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Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:31am

404011xz

404011xz

218 posts

Uhh. SSTG, my dad owns a few guns and I don't get that urge to go on a rampage. I'm a very paranoid pearson, but that's just the way I am, only cure is to be around my friends then I let my guard down a bit. Just because you are paranoid doesn't make you crazy, my dad is paranoid and crazy but crazy runs in our blood.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:38am

SSTG

SSTG

10,885 posts

Knight

Uhh. SSTG, my dad owns a few guns and I don't get that urge to go on a rampage. I'm a very paranoid pearson, but that's just the way I am, only cure is to be around my friends then I let my guard down a bit. Just because you are paranoid doesn't make you crazy, my dad is paranoid and crazy but crazy runs in our blood.

You obviously didn't understand what I said, please read it again.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:39am

nichodemus

nichodemus

11,883 posts

Knight

They did in the past, until about 60 years ago. Sometimes, when computers fail, they still need to. If the computers were down indefinitely, they'd likely hire more workers (hey, a partial solution to unemployment!), but they'd get it done.

Given the vast amount of transactions today compared to the past, I would say no. Also, bankers are in short demand, the problem is getting people educated enough.

Or a society that finds police to be inadequate. 'When seconds count, police are just minutes away'. Their job isn't necessarily to prevent crime, but to apprehend those responsible when it's over.

In that case, why are so many nations, where the police are minutes away still safer than the US? Why not pour money into the police departments that desperately need funding, instead of spending on useless military jets which have far exceeded their cost?

An increase in other weapons

A far lesser gun homicide rate, and homicide rate overall.

The US has tracking systems, too. Criminals find ways around them, such as shaving off serial numbers.

It has a poor tracking record of all weapons. The Swiss weapons are very much army property.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:42am

404011xz

404011xz

218 posts

I did. People don't necessarily buy guns and arm themselves to the teeth because they see evil all around. We buy moderate amounts to protect our loved ones, our lives, and our possesions. Do you see? It isn't about simply having one because you can, it's to make you feel safer and to give you the sense that if you are going to get robbed you can protect what you care about. And I find people who ussualy go crazy are the ones who take antidepresents and all those drugs that are supposed to "help" them.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:45am

404011xz

404011xz

218 posts

Sorry to burst your bubble there but once they are out of the army that gun belongs to the pearson who used it during that war, the soldier. And don't talk to us about wasting money on the army, the president is trying to spend LESS on military, and MORE on entitlements for illegals and people who aren't willing to search for a job, Just have 7 kids and receive a check every month for it, THAT is what is wrong with this country. I'll be back tomorow. Guns aren't bad, just the people who missuse them.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:51am

SSTG

SSTG

10,885 posts

Knight

The biggest issue I think is that there are way too many weirdos on the loose in the US and the fact that guns are easily accessible makes the problem worse.
BTW, people with mental problems are not exclusive to the US because in my lifetime so far I saw many crazy people on the loose in Montreal as well. It seem that North America doesn't give a **** about nutcases and I might add, homeless people which often suffer from mental illnesses.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 12:55am

404011xz

404011xz

218 posts

Uhh. I've never heard of a homeless dude going on a shooting spree with a gun before. They might riot with some broken bear bottles taped to chunks of wood, but not guns.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 1:02am

theEPICgameKING

theEPICgameKING

458 posts

Wow...3 pages in almost as many hours...hot topic!
I'll reiterate; Whatever you can do with a gun you can also do with other means. Take the being robbed situation. Just give the guy what he wants, then call the proper authorities. Do your part as a citizen; take note of what he looks like, maybe get his vehicle licence plate...do your part, and in a few hours the police will kindly return your stuff to you. No matter the life, it's still precious, more precious than, say, a few hundred bucks.

It isn't about simply having one because you can, it's to make you feel safer and to give you the sense that if you are going to get robbed you can protect what you care about.

Again, take a few self-defence classes. Taekwondo, karate, jujitsu, whatever. I know a way to get out of every hold. My late teacher (who died of whooping cough) said "If someone is ever desperate enough to hold a knife to you and ask for your wallet, give him your wallet. Then when his back is turned, tackle him, disarm him, and take your wallet back."
See? No need for a gun! It's all about your imagination. Guns make everything too easy: Too easy to kill, too easy to rob, too easy to hit something from a distance.
It is not our luxuries that determine us, it is our challenges.
A diamond is a piece of coal that handled stress exceptionally well.

The more you go through in life, the more life you live. Guns take all that away so easily...

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 1:07am

nichodemus

nichodemus

11,883 posts

Knight

Sorry to burst your bubble there but once they are out of the army that gun belongs to the pearson who used it during that war, the soldier.

Each such individual is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm Sig 550 rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm SIG-Sauer P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, medical and postal personnel) at home. Up until October 2007, a specified personal retention quantity of government-issued personal ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.The ammunition was intended for use while traveling to the army barracks in case of invasion.

In any case the Swiss militiamen don't keep the ammo at home.

In October 2007, the Swiss Federal Council decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still have ammunition stored at home today.

Thanks wiki.

And don't talk to us about wasting money on the army, the president is trying to spend LESS on military, and MORE on entitlements for illegals and people who aren't willing to search for a job, Just have 7 kids and receive a check every month for it, THAT is what is wrong with this country. I'll be back tomorow. Guns aren't bad, just the people who missuse them.

Please don't skew the situation. Under Obama, the number of deportations has reached record levels, doubling the average during President George W. Bush’s first term. Immigration officials have put more pressure on businesses that hire immigrants.

What Obama has done to reach out to illegals is to offer young illegals a chance to start life in America with a work permit. It makes little sense to send illegals who have grown up, been educated in the States, and feel more attached to the States back, when they can contribute.

And reducing military spending is always spoken of as a bad thing. Well, it is bloated beyond measure and is senseless to continue adding to it.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 1:13am

Jacen96

Jacen96

2,190 posts

This fine piece of equipment will protect you more than a gun ever will! It's very strong, reinforced titanium and kevlar..."

Against guns yes, but what about knifes, and other melee weapons?

Here, this is the sport at its peak." And he pulls out a Crossbow, complete with crosshairs for better accuracy.

Crossbows, deadly as a gun, and easier to get a hold of. Also, crossbow has a shorter range, and some people might want to shoot from a distance.

"THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS." It's in the constitution you idiot!
The shopkeeper merely smiles. "Of course, I have the perfect thing for you. This gun is covered under Second Amendment laws, guaranteed!" And he holds up a 200-year-old, civil-war-era musket, complete with rusty bayonet.

200 years, know your history, the united states itself is only 236 years old, the civil war was in the 1860's, not the 1810's. Also, I fail to see how the second amendment is limited to non-functional antiques. (although my family owns several that are quite functional, a civil war enfield rifle replica, purchased for use in reenactments)

"Other! That's my reason!" the Customer declares triumphantly.
The shopkeeper shrugs. "Very good answer sir." he says, while pressing a button under the counter. Two cops arrive at the shop in less than a minute and cuff the Customer.
"Hey! What the *PROFANITY* ARE YOU *PROFANITY* GUYS DOING? I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG!" He yells, almost breaking the glass of the windows.
"Actually, you have." The Shopkeeper begins. "the "other" reason, by exclusion of the other reason, can only include wanting to kill or rob someone. Therefore, you were thinking about commiting a crime when you selected "Other" as your reason. Caught you red-handed, trying to buy the tools necessary to commiting a crime. You confessed to it when you selected "Other"! Take him downtown, please." The cops nod and take the Customer away. The last thing he hears from the Shopkeeper is "Oh, and I knew it was you all those times!"

Arresting someone for doing nothing is against the law, as he had committed no crimes.

My response to the OP, don't feel like analyzing and responding to the newest posts.

~~~Darth Caedus

 
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