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Is it OK to teach evolution in public schools?

Posted Mar 12, '13 at 10:35pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,131 posts

America was founded i the believing in God, though of course other religions are excepted.

America was by primarily deists who didn't want an established religion running things. Or as one of them put it "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

I don't think public schools should teach this... "evolution" or whatever. Public schools are funded by the government, tax dollars, and the government was founded under God.

Even if it was (which it wasn't) you're saying that a God founded government should deny teaching facts? I think that speaks values of this religion that it must deny and suppress facts for itself.

because you are putting shame to America

Yes it's absolutely shameful to teach facts and science in America. I mean what? We actually want our children to have a good education? What kind of noise is that!

pretty much dissing the constitution

Which makes no mention of God.
The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

and all the "in God we trust" stuff.

Which wasn't added until the 1950's.

 

Posted Mar 12, '13 at 10:54pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

4,445 posts

    America was founded i the believing in God, though of course other religions are excepted.

No it wasn't.

America was, however, founded on the idea of keeping Church and State seperate

 

Posted Mar 13, '13 at 12:41am

TheGenovesan

TheGenovesan

55 posts

Long answer to this whole topic; I believe that my lord and savior, Jesus Christ and our father, God, created Heaven, Earth, and all people. America was founded in the believing of God, though of course other religions are accepted. I don't think public schools should teach this,"evolution" thing. Public schools are funded by the government using tax dollars, and the government was founded under God.

well well well, it seems there are some silly people on this topic. This has already been replied to many times, but I don't think I can help myself. It's just silly. First off, the government was founded in the believing of god? One word, no. The government was founded to govern the country and keep it from turning to total anarchy, not because they believed in god. If they had wanted to do that, they would of founded a church instead. Second, this is your belief, not everyone elses. Just because a fair bit of the population believe that there is a god doesn't mean we should deny the many others getting taught a fact. If we were to follow this line of thinking, then we might as well scrap science all together. If you believe in god, then I will respect that, honestly, but the idea of forcing ones belief on another is just plain wrong.

No, don't teach this "evolution" public schools, because you are putting shame to America and they are pretty much dissing the constitution and all the "in God we trust" stuff.

Good god, this line I have to say is definitely the worst. Now, I think you need to change your idea of shameful. Getting a five trillion dollar debt is shameful. Teaching people something with evidence to back it up? Not so much.

 

Posted Mar 13, '13 at 12:55pm

wolf1991

wolf1991

3,054 posts

shhh everyone calm down and do not feed the Troll.

However, for anyone else who decided to read this thread I present social commentary. Please be advised (for younger users) some language is offensive.

 

Posted Mar 13, '13 at 1:00pm

wolf1991

wolf1991

3,054 posts

Side note: the video discusses climate change, however the point is that those who are not scientists do not get a say in what should be taught in science class. Why? Because belief is not fact.

 

Posted May 2, '13 at 6:30pm

shortstopkid123

shortstopkid123

18 posts

I just got assigned a paper in english. I have to write it about something debatable and this gave me some good ideas :)

 

Posted May 2, '13 at 7:27pm

SectoidMedic

SectoidMedic

62 posts

this topic will turn into a flamewar at the drop of a hat.

 

Posted May 2, '13 at 9:14pm

ArchlordPie

ArchlordPie

115 posts

Wow. 20 pages and only one mention of either micro- or macro-evolution. I am very disappointed. Let me put this in simple terms.

Micro-evolution: The concept of genetic mutations resulting in variances within individual species. This has been observed and is scientifically proven to happen.

Macro-evolution: The concept of species changing into other species via genetic mutations. This has not been observed but is still touted as "fact" by far too many people, even though it's the best explanation science has for where all the different species on earth came from.

To answer the titular question, yes, it is OK, because it (at least the micro part) is proven scientific fact. I personally wish they did a better job of differentiating between micro and macro so as to be less confusing/misleading, but... meh.

 

Posted May 2, '13 at 9:50pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,131 posts

I just got assigned a paper in english. I have to write it about something debatable and this gave me some good ideas :)

Keep in mind the debate is not among the scientific community, but with the general public and the religious in particular.

Macro-evolution: The concept of species changing into other species via genetic mutations. This has not been observed but is still touted as "fact" by far too many people, even though it's the best explanation science has for where all the different species on earth came from.

http://www.epicgifs.net/images/show/6SD3VJN7

29+ Cases for Macroevolution
Observed Instances of Speciation
Evolution and Information: The Nylon Bug
Ring Species: Unusual Demonstrations of Speciation

I personally wish they did a better job of differentiating between micro and macro so as to be less confusing/misleading, but... meh.

It's really not that important as it's all the same process.

 

Posted May 3, '13 at 12:04am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

4,445 posts

this topic will turn into a flamewar at the drop of a hat.

...you do realize that this thread is on its 20th page, right?

That hat is taking its sweet time falling

 
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