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wlqqlw
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even i changed from Chrome to firefox, the games still show black for me,


Black screen for every single game on armorgames.com

I noticed some comments saying the same problem, guess i'm not the only one

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LightWarriorK
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I believe that @Ivanxxxxxxx has found another reason for possible black-out that's related to Flash player version.

If you are unable to go to YouTube.com and play a video however, you can be certain that's likely the issue. Now, not all of our ads are YouTube videos, so my belief would be that if you refreshed the page enough you may get a non-YouTube ad and it should work?


Flash player is up to date. I checked my version against the most recently available version. The Admins do nightly updates to the computers. I have refreshed sometimes over a dozen times. If there are ads out there that can load, they're not showing up.

But the fact is also that this is happening to you on your work. Be fair. Your manager certainly does not want you to play games and to watch videos instead of working the job for which you are paid.

You said also that back at home everything is working properly. So do not blame AG administrators, or AG in general.

Advice: If your LAN administrators wants to check everything you do on the computer,they certainly can.


I don't believe how I spend my significant downtime at work, nor breaks, nor lunches, is any business of yours or ArmorGames. In fact I believe ArmorGames should be thankful for people that choose to spend work time on this site. I suggest you not bring up that argument again.

I most certainly can blame ArmorGames for essentially making their site a paid gaming site, and I will continue to do so as long as there is no eventual bypass to the YouTube ads. If the Admins cared about employees spending free time on flash sites, they'd block the sites, just as the block YouTube, Pandora, and others.
MacII
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Flash player is up to date.


Incidentally, I think Ivanx here was suggesting to downgrade your FlashPlayer to a previous version. I spoke against it, but it is, I think, what he suggested.

If the Admins cared about employees spending free time on flash sites, they'd block the sites, just as the block YouTube, Pandora, and others.


That'd be a whole lot of pretty random sites for them to check on and block, wouldn't it.

I still think you have some stuff mistaken:

It is indeed none of our business how you spend your free time at work. However, if you then can't access some online material that you wish to, you should really be speaking to your system and network keepers/administrators about it, not us.

You seem to assume that because they don't block something, it follows they are OK with it. So, just tell them their blocking YouTube is interfering with your gaming at work, and if they can please resolve it. From the let sleeping dogs lie dept., there is of course the odd chance they may then take measures to block your gaming more permanently, instead, but that really is up to you.

I most certainly can blame ArmorGames for essentially making their site a paid gaming site


All I can tell you is I still haven't spent a penny on my goofing around here (sorry, AG).
LightWarriorK
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Incidentally, I think Ivanx here was suggesting to downgrade your FlashPlayer to a previous version. I spoke against it, but it is, I think, what he suggested.

And I also have said that I don't have the authority to modify things on my computer. If it was a simple matter of a downgrade, I would have done it. And if a downgrade is truly the answer, then AG has some work to do, not me.

It is indeed none of our business how you spend your free time at work.

Then none of what you said below that should have been uttered.

All I can tell you is I still haven't spent a penny on my goofing around here (sorry, AG).

Well I HAVE. I spent money on GemCraft Labyrinth Premium, which I can no longer play here, and I know for a FACT that AG made some profit off of that. Yes, there are other sites to play it on now, but this USED to be my go-to site.

And besides, just because you haven't spent a penny here doesn't mean AG hasn't made money off your visits. That's what this is all about: Ads. Let me put it another way: You CAN'T play games here unless AG makes money off your ad views, now. That, to me, is a &quotaid gaming site."

I don't even use ad-blockers at home. I have the option, of course, but I CHOOSE to support sites, knowing their ad revenue is important. But when that choice is removed, and when I am forced to watch an ad, and BLOCKED from the game unless I do...that's where I draw the line.

MacII and ivanxxxx I'm sorry, but you're not helping. You are naturally free to post, but I'm telling you right now, I am at the point where bickering with other players is just a waste of my time. I need Admins providing solutions, or THEM stating plainly what the situation is:

If I and everyone else with this issue need to suck it up that there will be NO bypass to the YouTube ads, I need them to say so, not you, so I can leave ArmorGames permanently.

If there will be an eventual resolution to this problem, then it needs to be found. If Ferret isn't just giving lip service, and they are actually working on it, then I'm fine with it, for now. But this has been going on since September, so my hope that will be the case is minimal.
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Hmmm... so since AG isn't coming up with a solution to having you access content that would earn them revenue, that's because all they care about is having you access content that would earn them revenue, right? I see... I think :|

(In other words, I reckon it's an unintended side-effect to them as much as to anyone else, and I'm sure they'd like to see it resolved just as well.)

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nb On this YouTube business, with all this fuss I am now reminded how I think over the course of the past few months or so, there was some change over at YT that caused me trouble to access it, and I think it did involve me making some changes to my various security or privacy software to resolve it.

If that memory isn't spurious, it's easy to see how indeed it's once again a case of (in this case) Google (today the owners of YouTube, right) bumbling up in no minor way, by making some "minor" changes that indeed do have unforeseen or ill-thought-out repercussions to all and sundry. In this case, websites relying on their ad content that now suddenly causes issues with part of their visitors then, apparently, and perhaps not so easily resolved for all users, by those websites. As far as I know, Google ads is pretty much a take-it-or-leave-it kind of scheme, i don't think websites have all that much say in tweaking what's in there or not, or hence its finer behavior.

As usual, I'll gladly hear it if I'm talking out of my nether regions. What I have grown out of is thinking the world revolves around my navel, and so any adversity having been designed specifically to make my life miserable.

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Hmmm... so since AG isn't coming up with a solution to having you access content that would earn them revenue, that's because all they care about is having you access content that would earn them revenue, right? I see... I think :|

It's the difference between an "ad-supported gaming site," and a "gaming-supported advertising site," IMHO.

As far as I know, Google ads is pretty much a take-it-or-leave-it kind of scheme, i don't think websites have all that much say in tweaking what's in there or not, or hence its finer behavior.

I agree it probably is that way, but there should still be something AG could do, site-side, to eventually bypass it.
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If you refresh the page a few times, does it start working? Or even if you refresh a dozen times, it's the same result. SAME RESULT
-Where are you playing from. Home, work, school? HOME
-Which browsers have you tried? IE AND CHROME
-Is this for all games, or some games? ALL GAMES
-What anti-virus, firewall, security software do you currently have installed? IE FIREWALL, TREND ANTI-VIRUS
-Can you access and watch YouTube videos normally? YES
-What region are you located in? USA (TEXAS)
-When did these problems start happening? 12-11-13
-When there is a black screen, do you hear anything or is it silent? SILENT
-Can you play MMOs on our website? HAVEN'T TRIED
-Is your internet connection direct to the wall, or is it going through a router of some sort? DIRECT
-Do you use any sort of ad blocking software? NO
This site was working just fine yesterday, then today black screen. I have updated everything I need to update with no change.

ivanxxxxxxx
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Black screen - no more

Watch video: click here

Description can be found there also!

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unfortunately there is not a sure fire solution, as there are different browsers and operating systems at play. I myself am on a vista system using Ice Dragon, the solution that worked for me was rolling back to an older version of flash. Also on my older XP machine I recently found that they are pulling support for that OS HERE

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I know, I wrote about it earlier. Check a few pages back.

There is a problem on the route NEW Adobe flash player and NEW Youtube, there is some conflict in the buffering, and it seems that there are some other possible incompatibilities.

The latest stable version of Adobe flash player is possible solution for Firefox!
For Chrome also, but it works great with pepperflash enabled and Adobe Flash player disabled.

I've done many .... many tests on different operating systems while using various Web Browsers, and all other variables. It would take me 10 pages to publish all the results.

Therefore, to cut down a long story

Sometimes you need to improvise in order to solve a problem, new - updated does not necessarily mean better safer.

I learned this when I used operating system DOS a long time ago

LightWarriorK
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Black screen - no more

Watch video: click here

Description can be found there also!


So....with YouTube blocked the solution can be found in a YouTube video? :P I'll have to watch it tonight. Hope it's something other than "mess with your plugins, permissions, or operating system to get around YouTube ads."
LightWarriorK
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The latest stable version of Adobe flash player is possible solution for Firefox!
For Chrome also, but it works great with pepperflash enabled and Adobe Flash player disabled.[/quote]

IF that's the problem, it still doesn't solve the issue for those who don't have total control over their systems. (work, school, libraries, etc.) It's merely a workaround, and IF there are those problems with the systems, it would seem logical that AG should disable them until the problems are fixed. [/wishful thinking]

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@LightWarriorK

I told you already,your case is different. You really do not have any problems with flash player, java, ad-blocker or anything else. The reason why you can not play games *(with youtube ads) lies in the settings of your local network.

As you said, that computer is at your work,you do not have full control of that computer,and you have certain restrictions. One of those restrictions is the blockade of Youtube web-site.

You should talk with your local network administrator If you really want to solve the problem. You can start with,for example, I'd like to use my spare time in watching videos from youtube,Can you enable this for me, please?
Or something like that,and maybe you will succeed. Who knows? If you do not try,you'll never know where you stand.

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-If you refresh the page a few times, does it start working? Or even if you refresh a dozen times, it's the same result. No
-Where are you playing from. Home, work, school? Home
-Which browsers have you tried? Firefox, Chrome, IE
-Is this for all games, or some games? All
-What anti-virus, firewall, security software do you currently have installed? Norton
-Can you access and watch YouTube videos normally? Yes
-What region are you located in? SW USA
-When did these problems start happening? About a month ago.
-When there is a black screen, do you hear anything or is it silent? Silent
-Can you play MMOs on our website? NO
-Is your internet connection direct to the wall, or is it going through a router of some sort? Direct.
My problem is a bit different. The ads play just fine, but then I get the black screen. I have tried the solution offere previously; It does NOT work.
-Do you use any sort of ad blocking software?

quamp
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Oh great. It cut off the last answer, which is no.

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