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Posted May 30, '10 at 1:22pm

Kyouzou

Kyouzou

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Ack! Sorry about the double post, accidentally hit submit.

I would save the person who has the best chance at living a normal life, her boyfriend has a neck wound and is unresponsive, so he may be paralyzed, go into a coma, or even brain dead. The wife was at least conscious, not to mention she is my wife. Aren't the vows

"for better or for worse,
for richer or for poorer,
in sickness and in health,
to love and to cherish"

Sure she didn't live by them, that doesn't mean I shouldn't either.

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 1:45pm

314d1

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He would already be dead oh logical one.

It was a hyperbole. He merely stated "bleeding heavily", so you would have to assume the worst that is not instant death.

Window shattered, windshield shattered, roof buckled etc. it's not hard to do...

It is without bleeding anywhere else. Since there is no other car, it is probably a crash into an inanimate object, thus front of the car would hit something making it unlikely for the roof to buckle in and the glass would hit in more arias then the neck.

off duty simply happened to be closest to the scene

If your off duty then you would have not have gotten called in, you would be in an ambulance. It would be illogical to go to the scene of the accident by yourself in a civilian vehicle.

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 8:48pm

DDX

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This is not a realistic question, as why would there be only you? In a true scenario there would be several medics as well as several police officers. Ill just ad "Non realistic" to my list... Plus, you would be able to save both if your cleaver enough or if the situation allows it...

well durr, first of all there would be 2 police officers 2 firetrucks and 2 ambulances. with that concluding to 4 EMTs. just because it addresses only you doesnt mean that there aren't other around.

I've been apart of the fire department I know how things work. I however am using a question that a friend found online, which is why I posted "not from me"

This should go into the game forum, as it has no bearing I can see on the WEPR....

well why dont you petition to have it moved then. Don't need to tell me about it, as Im not a mod.

I talked with one of the mods before, and they agreed that it should go into the world events/ other section. so seriously if you arent going to post productively then don't post at all.

buckle in and the glass would hit in more arias then the neck.

you mean areas.

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 8:50pm

wajor59

wajor59

895 posts

New question:
You are an emergency worker that has just been called to the scene of an accident. When you arrive you see that the car belongs to your wife. Fearing the worst you rush over to see she is trapped in her car with another man.

She sees you and although barely conscious, she manages to mouth the words �I�m sorry��

You don�t understand, but her look answers you question. The man next to her is her lover with whom she�s been having an affair.

You reel back in shock, devastated by what her eyes have just told you. As you step back, the wreck in front of you comes into focus. You see your wife is seriously hurt and she needs attention straight away. Even if she gets attention there�s a very high chance she�ll die.

Of course, I would have to switch sexes and say this is my husband with his lover,(male or female,wouldn't matter). As a professional, I would have to switch off all emotion until after my shift is finished. 

You look at the seat next to her and see her lover. He�s bleeding heavily from a wound to the neck and you need to stem the flow of blood immediately. It will only take about 5 minutes to stop, but it will mean your wife will definitely die.

Having said this the first thing I have to do is assess what I can do now.  I would try to free and treat the "lover" first as it's been determined the "spouse" is trapped.

If you tend to your wife however, the man will bleed to death despite the fact it could have been avoided.

Who would you choose to work on?

This is purely a professional decision that comes from my training, not an emotional decision that may cause both to die, needlessly.
The lover will be worked on first since he will live if I stem the flow of blood.

This is not a realistic question, as why would there be only you? In a true scenario there would be several medics as well as several police officers. Ill just ad "Non realistic" to my list... Plus, you would be able to save both if your cleaver enough or if the situation allows it...

Your theory fails already because this isn't a trick question.  This is a perfectly realistic scenario as I could have been the supervisor thus I would be the first on scene.  Regardless, these decisions are made every day in the real world and besides, this isn't a brain-teaser question, remember?

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 9:07pm

314d1

314d1

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well durr, first of all there would be 2 police officers 2 firetrucks and 2 ambulances. with that concluding to 4 EMTs. just because it addresses only you doesnt mean that there aren't other around.

Then it is not a life or death choice, as your wife and her lover would be taken care of by the others no matter what you do.

well why dont you petition to have it moved then. Don't need to tell me about it, as Im not a mod.

I talked with one of the mods before, and they agreed that it should go into the world events/ other section. so seriously if you arent going to post productively then don't post at all.

Because it gives me something to complain about.

you mean areas.

Probably do, my spelling is so off my spell check changes it to something else.

Your theory fails already because this isn't a trick question.  This is a perfectly realistic scenario as I could have been the supervisor thus I would be the first on scene.  Regardless, these decisions are made every day in the real world and besides, this isn't a brain-teaser question, remember?

So what if it is not a trick question? There are a thousand factors that effect what would happen. If it was a perfectly real scenario, then there would be someone else with you. It also does not explain the terrain, the distance from a city, your current equipment, the weather, etc that would help decide your choices.

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 9:34pm

DDX

DDX

3,465 posts

look, just cause you learn something in your 8th grade class about logical reasoning doesnt mean you have to be a complete d*ck about it, the point of this thread is to make an ethical decision based off of your moral standards, and if you arent going to do that, instead sit in front of a computer screen and PMS 24/7 then you are more or less spamming.

 

Posted May 30, '10 at 11:17pm

Kyouzou

Kyouzou

3,995 posts

Isn't it more like trolling by this point? I think you need to include a disclaimer *If you're going to be a smartass don't post.* lol

 

Posted May 31, '10 at 12:10am

314d1

314d1

3,509 posts

look, just cause you learn something in your 8th grade class about logical reasoning doesnt mean you have to be a complete d*ck about it, the point of this thread is to make an ethical decision based off of your moral standards, and if you arent going to do that, instead sit in front of a computer screen and PMS 24/7 then you are more or less spamming.

I have already pointed out the flaw in using this as a moral detector, as the moral point is usually obvious, such as in the OP the obvious moral thing to do would be save your friend. And every post of mine has said things that are constructive as well as the constructive/destructive criticism. You, however, have had nothing worthwhile in that last post, it was pure flame and pure crap.

 

Posted May 31, '10 at 8:02am

DDX

DDX

3,465 posts

And every post of mine has said things that are constructive as well as the constructive/destructive criticism

yea, but Im not looking for constructive/destructive criticism. Im telling you to go away, if you arent going to provide an answer dealing with the scenario provided. IF you are going to fish for flaming which is obviously what you are doing, then leave.

 

Posted May 31, '10 at 11:56am

goumas13

goumas13

4,401 posts

I am an emergency worker, so I have to save first the person that has the most chances of surviving. This means that I would save the lover, then I would try to save my wife.
My decision of trying to save her later will be not affected from the fact that she was cheating on me.