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rumors, rumors man.. Joseph Smith translated the book of mormon off the gold plates from the language it was in through the power of God. he even took the first couple of pages to a language scientist (idk the name of them =P ) who confirmed that it was a mixture of egyptian and other forms of writing and that the translations from what he could tell were correct. (he then got mad once he found out Joseph was mormon but whatever). Joseph found buried along with the BoM, the Urim and Thummim. these are the stones mentioned in Exodus 28:30 and Leviticus 8:8. he did place these in a hat at sometimes and looked into it to help with translation. but other people did look in to it. his friend who was writing down the Book of Mormon as he translated it also looked into it. i believe it was Oliver Cowdery..

and bladerunner, what is your source of information about my religion?

south park =P oh and you can believe in the book of mormon if you want (but it's kinda stupid)

OK a question for the mormons, do you believe God loves us unconditionaly?

how can you call mormons stupid? because they have a faith and they believe in something? The only reason there are so many "loop holes" is because out of all the religions it is the newest. You can't tell me what jesus really did! and really show me proof. But i believe! we go off of what the bible tells us and also what the romans and a couple other empires wrote about. But to say that it is stupid to believe as a mormon, you might as well say your stupid for believing in someone you have never seen or met either. It is a matter a faith not a matter of "who is right"

exactly, bladerunner, a cartoon. i think you should re-examine your sources and not talk about a religion just from stuff you heard on a cartoon. and have you ever read the book of mormon? you can't call something stupid that you don't know much about...

yes samy, God loves us beyond anything.

you're going to come back with, "then don't you think that no matter what we did, he would let us into heaven if we accepted Christ?"

and i say, "God loves you. your parents love you too, correct? but when you do something wrong, there are consequences that follow. you kick your mom in the shin, there will be punishments and consequences. if you sin, there will be punishments. we believe the three greatest sins are murder, adultery, and denying the Holy Spirit."

and i say, "God loves you. your parents love you too, correct? but when you do something wrong, there are consequences that follow. you kick your mom in the shin, there will be punishments and consequences. if you sin, there will be punishments. we believe the three greatest sins are murder, adultery, and denying the Holy Spirit."

i have a different belief in christianity then some christians. I believe in purgatory hint my name, and yes i know i spelt it wrong, wouldn't let me make it the other way. I believe if you do not accept christ, let's say you are a Muslim, hell maybe even an atheist. But as an atheist you where genuinely a very nice person. A better person even than most the Christians you know. I believe that because you never accepted christ you go on to purgatory. From there you wait until judgment day at the end of time, when there shall be peace on earth for a 1000 years. There your fate is decided by the lord himself where he weighs your goods versus your bad, and your ignorance versus your lack of knowledge.

(see? i read your mind =P )well we believe that some sins are worse. stealing a cookie from your brother is not as bad as murder. and yes, i do know the story. the son leaves and wastes his money with riotous living, he returns and is taken with open arms. in verses 18,19, and 21 of Luke 15 the prodigal son repents to the father. God always gives you seconds chances. but you must repent truly, with a broken and contrite heart.

exactly bliss. i actually have a very good friend who is an atheist. she has morals, she's kind and caring. we believe that if she doesn't accept the gospel on earth, that in paradise she will have a chance to learn about the gospel and choose whether or not to accept it. what if someone lived somewhere and they never even heard of Jesus Christ their entire life? according to the theory of having to accept Christ to go to heaven, this person would be condemned to hell even if they were the kindest nicest person on earth.

ahh exactly what i think. i just think it is selfish and arrogant to think your religion is superior and that everyone else will go to hell. especially when we talk about the trinity of Abraham religions. Muslim, Judaism, and Christianity. we are all very close to the same beliefs in religion. same god, same sins. Even many of the stories are the same. the only difference in the story of Abraham is that the a Isaac instead of Ishmael is to be sacrificed and that instead of Abraham just being stopped suddenly from sacrificing, and his son in the Muslim is just exchanged out for a lamb, he stabs the lamb instead of his son. This is just one example. But the hatred for Muslims is unbelievable, to think that just because they have extremists they can be hated so much! but Christians forget we have extremists too. hell more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other faith.

according to the theory of having to accept Christ to go to heaven, this person would be condemned to hell even if they were the kindest nicest person on earth.

well we believe that some sins are worse. stealing a cookie from your brother is not as bad as murder.

God always gives you seconds chances. but you must repent truly, with a broken and contrite heart.

ah but those religions did not believe in jesus! so therefore they are not Christians. there where many people that where discovered that yes believed in a god. But that's a common thing for humans to believe. Since the beginning of time we have believed there was something was out there. But they where definitely not christian.

ah but those religions did not believe in jesus! so therefore they are not Christians. there where many people that where discovered that yes believed in a god. But that's a common thing for humans to believe. Since the beginning of time we have believed there was something was out there. But they where definitely not christian.

i would love to read these accounts and claims. Because right now it just makes it sound like your making it up. But i do believe you. but that does not take away the fact that there are people who do not share that idea and have never thought of the idea of a savior. just because some people believe in a personal savior does not mean everyone does. i believe these people are judged by their Morales not their beliefs.

Thats an extremely atheistic view of sin, would both of those send you to hell...?Yes they have the same punishment equal sin.

i have heard about African tribes having religions similar to Christianity. there's a book called Things Fall Apart, i haven't read it yet but it is about that. but samy, you are contradicting yourself. you said you can only be saved if you are Christian and accept Jesus. yet you said that anyone who believes in a savior is saved, such as the people with no contact to white people. not making much sense..

and we just don't believe that all sins are equal. God would be much more upset with you if you killed one of His children (a human) than if you stole a cookie. also if you committed adultery. He gave humans the sacred power of creating life; you shouldn't toy around with it. we believe that sex should only be had in the bonds of marriage.

humans have always had a belief of a deity or a greater power. it's an explanation for things unknown