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US House of Represenatives passes Health Care Bill 220-215

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:02am

balerion07

balerion07

570 posts

Iron - Squire

HELLO SOCIALISM!!!

Sigh.  Why did this have to happen?  As if we aren't in debt enough.  Sure we aren't as screwed as Japan is per person thanks to when they tried to spend their way out of a Depression in the 90s but we sure are catching up to them.

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:07am

TSL3_needed

TSL3_needed

3,614 posts

Iron - Prince

I believe it still has to go through a Senate. But okay.

HELLO SOCIALISM!!!

Wrong. More like

HELLO REFORM THAT WILL COST OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS!!!

It is reform. Whether it is good or not remains to be seen, if it is indeed signed into law. But of course, no one will EVER read the entire thing. Ever. It is too long. This is the failing. They passed it not knowing what is in the entire bill. So

HELLO STUPIDITY!!!

*cough*

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:10am

balerion07

balerion07

570 posts

Iron - Squire

At least conservatives got abortion restrictions through on it.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:11am

TSL3_needed

TSL3_needed

3,614 posts

Iron - Prince

At least conservatives got abortion restrictions through on it.

The only restrictions I say should be on that matter are to prevent it being used as birth control. Otherwise, it should be a free market.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:29am

BigP08

BigP08

1,263 posts

Gold - Lord

The only restrictions I say should be on that matter are to prevent it being used as birth control. Otherwise, it should be a free market.

Well, I've heard (my sources may be wrong, correct me if so) that it's going to use tax-payer dollars to pay for abortion, and I don't think that's fair since it's not really a resolved issue.
Besides, anybody using it as birth control could say they were *****, so there's no way to stop them unless you restricted that too; and if you support abortion in the right circumstances, I'm betting that's one of them.

What I see on this issue a lot is conservatives saying this bill will make everything worse and benefit no one, and the liberals saying this bill will make everything better and make it worse for no one. No benefit comes without drawbacks, and same thing vice versa. I literally went on AOL and found two sides to the story. The Democrat version said, "The more the American people learn about the bill, the more they like it." The Republican version said, "Is it any wonder that the more the American people learn about the bill, the less they like it?" I'm not big on economics, so I really don't know what to think. All I know is that I cannot in good conscience support this bill that I don't understand, especially when the interpretations of it are completely different coming from both sides. Anybody who wants to respond to this post, just remember: the side you choose to take on the bill is either influenced by your political standpoint or your own interpretation of the bill. Neither of those can really convince me, unless you can break down both sets of logic, show me where yours succeeds, and show me where the opposing logic fails.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:34am

Moe

Moe

258 posts

Gold - Squire

All I know is that I cannot in good conscience support this bill that I don't understand, especially when the interpretations of it are completely different coming from both sides.

Thats why I usually make my decisions based on the facts, not what people say.  However on this case the bill is huge and I doubt most congress people read it all the way through.  Also with the way republicans are threatened by it and the rate of lies they try to add to, I completely support it just to see them squirm.  I'm not really a democrat, as my views change based on facts, but recently I haven't like anything the republicans have to say and way to many of the ones in power act stupid(in my opinion anyways).

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:39am

TSL3_needed

TSL3_needed

3,614 posts

Iron - Prince

I completely support it just to see them squirm. 

I have never seen a more retarded reason to support something. Just, wow.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:41am

Armpit

Armpit

43 posts

Gold - Serf

Obama finally got something right.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:41am

Moe

Moe

258 posts

Gold - Squire

I have never seen a more retarded reason to support something. Just, wow.

I supported most of the original version, then they changed it and I stopped paying attention.  Then the republicans attacked it like dogs, so now I give it my full support.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:44am

TSL3_needed

TSL3_needed

3,614 posts

Iron - Prince

Obama finally got something right.

You do realize he has done absolutely nothing with it?

Then the republicans attacked it like dogs, so now I give it my full support.

Again, a rather retarded reason to support something.
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I say they should scrap the ENTIRE bill, and burn it. Then write one with only about 50 pages.

 

Posted Nov 8, '09 at 12:45am

Kasic

Kasic

355 posts

Gold - Squire

Obama finally got something right.

I have a feeling that you wont be feeling this way in a while... This healthcare thing seems to me like the start of all government ran business, first it's the schools, then healthcare, then insurance, so on so forth.

 
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