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Achievements Suggestion

Posted Jun 4, '12 at 1:16pm

hawkeye

hawkeye

241 posts

Please read:

(if you are reading I thank you for taking the time to see what I suggest)
1- The Achievements must not include Armorpoints unless the game is beat (+1 AP) (Without AP would be nice too)
2- Not too many achievements
It would be really hard to add achievements because the only achievements that will appear are in the new games or modified games. So I think that to add that feature, Every game must be modified.
3- Achievements have their own page on the person's account to show.
4- Achievements should not be got by completing levels; They should be earned by special things like beating the game or doing an incredible stunt. (Should not be that hard though)

Thank you so much for taking the time to read my ideas and I hope you  use them.

--Hawkeye

 

Posted Jun 4, '12 at 2:27pm

GhostOfMatrix

GhostOfMatrix

11,693 posts

Knight

The Achievements must not include Armorpoints unless the game is beat (+1 AP)

I don't think you know how achievements are most likely going to work here. Go to Kongregate and play a few of their games that include badges. That's how armor points are going to function in AG3.

Not too many achievements

Defeats the point of having achievements if you don't make a lot of them and continue making more of them. This is how armor points are going to work, you're going to need something to keep people interested.

 

Posted Jun 4, '12 at 4:04pm

Patrick2011

Patrick2011

3,494 posts

@hawkeye: GhostOfMatrix responded to your first 2 suggestions, and I agree with him. Here's my response to your other suggestions:

3- Achievements have their own page on the person's account to show.

I think achievements should be a section of your profile. However, if suggestion 3 is implements, a certain number of achievements should be shown on the profile (like AG2 faved games and friends) with a link to the full list.

4- Achievements should not be got by completing levels; They should be earned by special things like beating the game or doing an incredible stunt. (Should not be that hard though)

Achievements should be for a variety of things, including level, beating the game, and special stuff.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 1:43am

hawkeye

hawkeye

241 posts

I don't think you know how achievements are most likely going to work here. Go to Kongregate and play a few of their games that include badges. That's how armor points are going to function in AG3.

Sorry if I'm not updated on the information about the AG3 new system but one thing about having achievements is that it will make points flow like hell. If there aren't too much achievements it would be better. Achievements I believe will be better if they did not include too much AP too.

And by the way, Thank you for taking the time to see what I had in mind.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 3:19am

GhostOfMatrix

GhostOfMatrix

11,693 posts

Knight

one thing about having achievements is that it will make points flow like hell.

No, because it'll actually take time to get achievements in games. Unlike now where you can get up to ten thousand armor points from simply rating all the games, leaving comments on each one, and chatting with other users. I've seen some people get to wood king in a matter of a month or two that way. The current system is broken, the new armor points system (achievements) will work better. However an abundant supply of achievements is needed to keep people interested and so this will last longer. You also need to give an appropriate amount of points considering this will be the new armor points.

How I imagine it working:
You'll have easy, medium, and hard achievements similar to Kongregate. For the sake of not copying it entirely I'd suggest adding some sort of legacy achievement - the legacy achievement will be the hardest one to get because you have to achieve one hundred percent completion in a game. This achievement will reward anywhere between 60-100 armor points. Since it would be so difficult to get I'd go with 100. However with the other difficulties I'd reward an easy achievement 5-10 points, medium 15-20, and hard 30-40.

The only way achievements can truly be abused is if people hack games, but you can't stop people from doing that, so it's not a good enough reason to discard the achievements idea. If suspect someone's rate of getting achievements/their score isn't legitimate then we can report them and they handle it. An example of why that's such a poor reason: Look at the forums, we all like using them, however a downside to them is there are spammers. Should we delete the forums because spammers show up occasionally? No, that's idiotic. We should rather keep them because the users enjoy them and there's a group of people to deal with the spammers. Just like there will be a group of people to deal with hackers abusing achievements.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 4:54am

hawkeye

hawkeye

241 posts

How I imagine it working:
You'll have easy, medium, and hard achievements similar to Kongregate. For the sake of not copying it entirely I'd suggest adding some sort of legacy achievement - the legacy achievement will be the hardest one to get because you have to achieve one hundred percent completion in a game. This achievement will reward anywhere between 60-100 armor points. Since it would be so difficult to get I'd go with 100. However with the other difficulties I'd reward an easy achievement 5-10 points, medium 15-20, and hard 30-40.

This is actually a great Idea however if you add the achievements back to the game that never had achievements on AG2 i'll have a problem. I've beat a lot of games on AG2 you can't count and I beat them 100% (Yeah sure of it) but some of the game saves are gone and I don't think my saves will be moved back to AG3. I suggest you only add achievements that have the AG save feature (Saving using your user online) so I won't have to beat the game all over again to get the achievement. Some games are really hard to beat and get all the in-game achievements again like "Epic Battle Fantasy 3" or "Crystal Story" "Acruz and Acruz 2" or Castaway games. Those games are huge and requires time to beat.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 5:01am

GhostOfMatrix

GhostOfMatrix

11,693 posts

Knight

I've beat a lot of games on AG2 you can't count and I beat them 100% (Yeah sure of it) but some of the game saves are gone and I don't think my saves will be moved back to AG3.

If your saves have been deleted that's on you - we have no control over that, but they do plan on moving our game progress over to AG3.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 6:39am

hawkeye

hawkeye

241 posts

If your saves have been deleted that's on you - we have no control over that, but they do plan on moving our game progress over to AG3.

So AG3 will still have the saved games from AG2? I don't understand.

 

Posted Jun 5, '12 at 7:12am

GhostOfMatrix

GhostOfMatrix

11,693 posts

Knight

So AG3 will still have the saved games from AG2?

Yes, our progress in games from this site will be moved to there.

 

Posted Jun 7, '12 at 11:12am

Doodeedaa

Doodeedaa

60 posts

I LOVE achievments so I think this is a GREAT idea!

 
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