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Man, I hate to seem flimsy on my stances, but... I think when I said the following I was referring that the last example was a claim, and not an opinion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be contradicting yourself here. You state that an opinion can be derived from invalid facts. Now assuming you're defining "invalid" as "false," that first clause of your example, "All Canadians are mounties and say 'eh' all the time," is invalid. You would agree, however, that the second clause, "Canadians suck," would be an opinion if it existed on its own though, right? So why isn't the overall statement an opinion by your definition? The opinion is simply derived from an untrue fact.

I hate it when that happens =.= I suppose I have to rescind my stance on this matter and say that opinions in certain situations.

Does that mean bigotry is right?

Attacking someone just for holding a specific opinion is hipocrisy, but if the reason for said opinion is false/unfounded, does the opinion magically stay untouchable even though there's no good reason to hold it?

An opinion can be both wrong and right, wrong in the facts, but right because that is what they truly believe, and you should respect that.

The facts maybe wrong but the opinion can NEVER be wrong, as in the definition of an opinion states that an opinion doesn't have to have any facts.

In my opinion, 2+2 equals 5.

And the sky is orange.

Give me any opinion and I can dig deeper and find if it's reasonable to hold.

Hitler was just being satirical during his rule. Everyone took him seriously so he kept going farther and farther hoping someone would finally catch on.

It is my opinion that this opinion is false.

Give me any opinion and I can dig deeper and find if it's reasonable to hold.

Give me any opinion and I can dig deeper and find if it's reasonable to hold.

Opinions can not be false because that would by definition would make it a fact. A opinion is someone's beliefs, while a fact is information that can be proven either true or false.

Give me any opinion and I can dig deeper and find if it's reasonable to hold.

Ok challenge accepted.

My opinion is that nursery rhymes are creepy

In my opinion, 2+2 equals 5.

And the sky is orange.

In my opinion, 2+2 equals 5.

Claim, not an opinion

And the sky is orange.

The sky is actually occasionally orange... And also a claim. Nothing you have said has been an opinion yet =.=

Of course there can be wrong opinions, there is only one truth. There are many facts, but only one truth. Opinions are just unverified points of view on truth. Think of it this way:

There is only one truth as to how the universe was created. There are many facts from previous theories, but what made them facts was that you brain cannot misunderstand, cannot argue, and cannot deny the point blank obvious facts (also known as common sense) around us everyday that support this hypothesis a person comes up with. Opinions are things that people don't all agree to, because they have facts that either some people have not seen or experienced at all. But not all the time is what you come in contact to a real or factual fact. So yes, opinions can be wrong. There aren't many ways the universe was made, there is one way it was made. And there are more then like 3 billion people who come up with theories on how the universe was made. Law of average would say more then 2 million people will get it wrong. That is the factual proof to support opinions can be wrong.

It is my opinion that Ottawa Senators is the best NHL team in the world.

It is my opinion that the electoral college should be disbanded.

A opinion is someone's beliefs,

My opinion is that nursery rhymes are creepy