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Tank0122
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I personaly like McCain because i'm conservative

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Agent_86
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They "need" welfare because they are too lazy to get off their fat rears, turn off the tv, and go to work.

Drace
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They "need" welfare because they are too lazy to get off their fat rears, turn off the tv, and go to work.


Thats completely absurd. Those people are getting paid minimum wage which is soooo little...

Welfare is there to help new immigrants to get settled while they go to college. The thing is though, most cant afford to stop working to get into college, and some are just too old.
Agent_86
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Thats completely absurd. Those people are getting paid minimum wage which is soooo little...
Well, if they would actually do something with their life, then they wouldn't be paid minimum wage.

Well, this stuff about "immigrants going to college" is just plain false. My mom is an immigrant from the Philippines, and she didn't get welfare to "get settled". The thing is, if you can actually do something that others need you to do, you should be able to support yourself.
Drace
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My mom is an immigrant from the Philippines, and she didn't get welfare to "get settled".


By getting settled I mean, paying rent, buying food, clothes etc. Now your dad must of had a good job here or something?

The thing is, if you can actually do something that others need you to do, you should be able to support yourself.


You need education for anything that gives a good pay so you don't live a stressful life. Everyone wants a slave.

Btw, its not only yourself, but also family.
Megamickel
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Welfare is flawed, plain and simple. Instead of giving out money, it should be spent on actually helping people out. This would prevent abuse, and would help those who actually NEED the help get it.

Drace
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Welfare is flawed, plain and simple. Instead of giving out money, it should be spent on actually helping people out. This would prevent abuse, and would help those who actually NEED the help get it.


By giving money don't you help people out?
How else do you want the government to help someone?
Agent_86
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By giving money don't you help people out?
How else do you want the government to help someone?
Well, they could pay for education so that they can get a job and they can support themselves.

Here's another great quote:

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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Obama all the way

zerato5
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bull!!! mcain is al least anti-jihad obmamas a dipshit i dont check this so comment on my profile

Drace
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Well, they could pay for education so that they can get a job and they can support themselves.


This has 2 major problems.

1) Lack of money. It would cost way too much to support free public education. Much more then welfare.

2) Even if college is free, it takes at least 4 years, to graduate. How do people support themselves during these years? And remember, most of their time is consumed by college and studying...
A minimum wage job doesn't do good enough anyways.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."


This is a quote from Karl Marx which shows his hatred toward businesses and reveals how every business is corrupt.

And its actually

"Sell a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity."
billygoat94
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Onama all the way

Drace
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Considering Mccain's face, his dumb and pointless ads, his vice president, stupid speeches, and his lying self. I'm for Obama ^^

I don't want to tax the rich, I want to make everyone rich!


Right >_>

His ads are even worse.
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ok OBAMA FOR LIFE....i think a change is truely needed!

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Welfare is flawed, plain and simple. Instead of giving out money, it should be spent on actually helping people out. This would prevent abuse, and would help those who actually NEED the help get it.


Welfare is a stop gap measure. We all know that. However, it's a necessary measure because if you need 18 months to train somebody so that they can survive on their own, what will they do for those 18 months? Welfare (theoretically) allows for people to take the time to find other jobs or be trained for a job. Is it a perfect system? No, but at it's heart the concept is sound, it just needs some tweaks to get it working properly.
Drace
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Is it a perfect system? No, but at it's heart the concept is sound, it just needs some tweaks to get it working properly.


The only problem is, people want to live happy. They need money to do so. Those who don't have enough sign up for welfare, even if they don't qualify.

Making welfare harder to "abuse" won't solve any problems. Those who want that money will just be screwed.

Sure, they may not NEED it, but its something everyone should have.
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