I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
This is going to be a little random but my question for the Atheist to answer is.. If you believe there is no God then explain to me how everything came to be? And if you say the big bang then how did the gases or particles get there to make the planets and stars, etc?
The singularity.
No answers to those questions is why I believe in God. I mean how else did we got on the perfect planet for life?
It was bound to happen some time, and there are probably thousands of "erfect conditions" for life, just look at bacteria living above volcanoes in the ocean. A planet totally like that could even be livable! Just a random chance, like someone winning the lottery. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.
Then god does not exist. Nature is everything, if god is above nature how does one create nature? For nature's nature is chaos and according to the bible it is ordered, but one cannot order chaos
Then god does not exist. Nature is everything, if god is above nature how does one create nature?
Being God; it's hard to explain. Basically God do anything and I know "because God did it" is a crappy argument but it's an actual answer here; God can do it and God did it.
For nature's nature is chaos and according to the bible it is ordered, but one cannot order chaos
Actually the bible shows a system of order moving to a system of chaos.
Then where di god come from? Please Samy I know I'm repeating the question but God simply can't exist when nothing exists. How about we settle for God is the big bang?
Please Samy I know I'm repeating the question but God simply can't exist when nothing exists. How about we settle for God is the big bang?
Eh; how about this.
Alt is constantly harping about the primeval atom that caused time to come into existence at the same time as matter because the two depend on each other for existence. God, somehow, ties into that being the being that is after time started. Remember something has to be uncreated.
God, somehow, ties into that being the being that is after time started. Remember something has to be uncreated.
The notion of God(s) ties into it insofar as humans have placed the idea there. The debate as to who is correct is pointless. We have no evidence that God(s) exist, just like we have no evidence that they don't. All we have is opinions on the matter.
However what we can disprove is the ideas put forth by 'holy' books is what they say in an effort to explain our physical world. As we know all of them are very mistaken on many points and outright wrong on most. Therefore to follow an idea because a book tells you too seem ridiculous in my opinion.
The bible gives no more evidence for God (or the Qur'an or Torah for that matter) than J.R.R. Tolkein gives us for the existence of Ents and Orcs.
To use a book as evidence because the book says so is ridiculous and asinine. It proves nothing and it is a position of utter ignorance of fact.
If you believe in God then good for you. No one is saying you can't, or even that you really shouldn't. The point that is trying to be made is that you can't provide any empirical evidence to explain why you do, so any argument beyond "I do because I do" is moot.
And to try to convince anyone else of your position on the basis of "evidence" is inaccurate and pointless. The argument can be summed up by these two points:
1. Theists believe in their God(s) without evidence. 2. Atheists decline to believe in God(s) without evidence.
Until whatever God(s) there may be come and manifest themselves in the physical world in a way that can be observed, tested, verified, and proven then the argument for or against is moot.
You're point isn't new in fact most of us have posted the same thing multiple times. We continue to debate the finer points and I whenever we debate the "existence of God" it ends up in flame wars so we've mostly stopped. My goal is to show atheists that logical intelligent Christians exist.
