Have you heard of one thought by a brilliant guy? "If I believe in God, I will be saved, or nothing will happen. If I wouldn't believe in God, I have a chance to either die in hell, or that nothing will happen." I think I would rather believe in God. Why go against him?
It's a false dichotomy, since there are numerous religions and denominations of those religions.
I like to think that I would be an athiest but my parents had me go to a christian church as a child.
Why would that stop you from being an atheist?
Drinking in moderation is fine getting drunk is okay becoming an alcoholic is not;why, because you're putting alcohol above God.
There's more to it then that when it comes to addiction.
I've know alcoholics who still faithfully followed God just as much as the next Christian. Perhaps even more so then you. They would often pray for God to help them with their addiction. I'll let you take a guess how well that worked.
I forgot you guys don't know me well enough to understand my views on most things. Sorry. I think there should be different colours. Blue text usually indicates sarcasm.
Around here that means your a Mod.
all atheists need to learn how to believe and hang on to some hope
I'm fully capable of believing in something, I just want some evidence first. I also hope for things all the time.
who knows where Atheist might end up.
We get ham sandwiches...(sorry running joke)
If you believe there is no God then explain to me how everything came to be? And if you say the big bang then how did the gases or particles get there to make the planets and stars, etc?
Again matter/energy can't be created or destroyed just changed. How the singularity got there it may have always been (time holding no meaning here since there was no space). Another possibilities is that all the matter/energy budded off from another universe.
Currently we just don't know.
No answers to those questions is why I believe in God.
Saying "I don't know" doesn't mean we should automatically say "God dud it". Why is it when ever something can't be currently explained a theist says it was magic?
I mean how else did we got on the perfect planet for life?
Well if this planet wasn't suited for life we wouldn't be here to ask why we are here. It's a bit like asking how a chocolate bunny fits the mold it came out of.
God simply is he always was and he always will be.
"If we say God always existed, then why not save a step and say the universe always existed" -Carl Sagan
Though given the laws of physics I think he would have been more accurate to say matter/energy.
Alt is constantly harping about the primeval atom that caused time to come into existence at the same time as matter because the two depend on each other for existence. God, somehow, ties into that being the being that is after time started. Remember something has to be uncreated.
It's not so much something being uncreated as it is changing from one form to another. Exactly at what point was God needed for this process?
When coming up with a solution you want to start with the most simplified answer and work your way up adding new variables as the evidence for them is presented. Adding God is only adding not only adds an unnecessary variable, but no evidence for it has been presented giving no reason to add it.
Well while I can't say my core belief is logically I can say I can logically defend many points of my belief (if not the explicit belief in God.)
I think your one of the smarter theists on here but when you argue religion your use of logic often goes out the window in favor of assertions.
Once again I disagree but this is about as easy to argue as the existence of God; so.
he has a point. Scripture has been interpreted and reinterpreted in numerous ways. This is something that is clearly not clear cut. Far to often as we have seen on the forum, many things in the Bible have to be given an apologetic treatment in order to make any kind of sense at all.
Besides using the Bible to justify the Bible is a fallacy in it self.
