I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
I think that the contradictions should be mentioned. The bible is full of them
Im sorry, you seem new., but this is an epicly old topic. This topic is everywhere on this thread. 2 cents worth: Technically the bible has no contradictions, it's the BOOKs inside them that do. One BOOK says this, another BOOK says that.
I'd love to find another topic; Like the unicorns one, that one was new and i liked it.
Technically the bible has no contradictions, it's the BOOKs inside them that do. One BOOK says this, another BOOK says that.
Two of the contradicting quotes come from Exodus, which is part of the torah, which if part of the tanach, which is the main part of the old testament.
Also, the fist part of the list in the link you gave me is a fail.
Abraham had 2 sons.
The first "contradicting" quotanion: At the time he had already kicked ishmael out of his house, so he had only one "true son"
The second "contradicting" quotanion: It was the quotation of what abraham said in a talk bettwen him and god. quotation:
English: (strait translation by me) and said god: Take your son, your only son, the son you love, Issac, and go by your own free will, to the country of muria, and climb, up, on one of the mountains, which I will tell you (on which one you shall sacrifice your son)
Now the "full" conversasion:
God: Take your son. Abraham: But I have two sons. God, Your only son (the son your wife bore you and I promised you) Abraham: But I have two sons. God: The son you love. Abraham: But I love them both God: Issac, God (continue): and go, by your own free will, to the country of muria, and climb, up, on one of the mountains, which I will tell you (on which one you shall sacrifice your son).
Technically the bible has no contradictions, it's the BOOKs inside them that do. One BOOK says this, another BOOK says that.
Firstly, even if two different books in the Bible contradict eachother, then the Bible is inherently contradictory, as it proclaims everything within it's pages is true.
Secondly, many of the contradictions are found within the same books of the Bible, so your argument is moot.
Secondly, many of the contradictions are found within the same books of the Bible, so your argument is moot.
I only see one. One contradiction within a book is not an most. Show me more an then that agruement will be whatever that word u said it is.
Btw, I checked out that link. Those contradictions are completely pointless details. It's like messing up by changing the length of a person small toe midstory. Many of them are hopelessly wrong and other completely ignore the fact that there were multiple writers within each book. Most are 'when' and 'how many' questions. Mistakes are bound to be made. Example one of a pointless contradiction, how many men did davids captains kill. 800 or 300. Do we really need to make a huge fuss over that?
MRWalker's link may have changed my whole outlook on God, however I must say; [/quote]Matthew 24 Revelation 6:13 In the days of the Apocalypse. the stars will fall from the sky and land on the earth like "figs". In other words, the stars are small and subject to earthly gravity. [/quote] that would be God's power not gravity
Even Islam makes more sense than christianism. Let alone Science.
We are in the 21st Century people, forget about Adam, Eve, Jesus and God. We are in the era of techonological growth. It is Science that counts now. Not religion.
We are in the 21st Century people, forget about Adam, Eve, Jesus and God. We are in the era of techonological growth. It is Science that counts now. Not religion.
So suddenly math is thrown out the window cuz I guess that doesn't count either . That's nice. Now can you say sometime to contributes to the current discussion. Btw, I had no idea that this was the 21st century, I just thought that we're all gonna die 2012 and that Obama is the greatest president ever! Did you see how he took control of the oil spill crisis? Stern words are where it's at!
Have faith. This is not Heaven, this is Earth. Our goals as Christians is to get to heaven and be in eternal happiness with God. Bad things happen on Earth because this is not Heaven.
This is one thing I really don't like about religions. You prepare for your after life (which in my opinion doesn't even exist, but that's just btw) and some of you don't take the threats in the real life as serious as you maybe should do, because after all this is 'just Earth'. That is your general excuse for everything, and it almost implies that there is nothing to do because it is supposed to be like that, and so you do nothing. I'm not saying that every believing person is like that, but some do and this is just wrong
This is one thing I really don't like about religions. You prepare for your after life (which in my opinion doesn't even exist, but that's just btw) and some of you don't take the threats in the real life as serious as you maybe should do, because after all this is 'just Earth'. That is your general excuse for everything, and it almost implies that there is nothing to do because it is supposed to be like that, and so you do nothing. I'm not saying that every believing person is like that, but some do and this is just wrong
preparing for heaven is living life like Jesus(bet you haven't been told that before :P), and like all those 'character pillars', which annoy me. Btw, I do take threats on earth seriously, just because I believe in God and heaven doesn't mean I'm ready yet to go there. I want to stay on earth until I know I'm ready to die.
Could you please rephase the 'not doing anything because it is 'just earth' part? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying
Could you please rephase the 'not doing anything because it is 'just earth' part? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying
By that I mean that the risk of thinking, 'Earth is but an intermediate place, I like it but I don't care what happens to it after I'm gone because I'll be in a better place' is very big if you believe in an afterlife. Admittedly, a lot of people who aren't even religious care nothing about earth, but those care nothing about anything but their own wealth..
A lot of Christians seem to forget that - according to their own holy book - God charged humans with the task of taking care of the Earth and using it properly.
Carefree people. I don't like them. Those are the people who abuse the idea of religon. Religon is not supposed to be easy. Too many think , 'hurray! I'm in a religon! That means nothing bad will happen to me!'. And that's all they do. Trust in God, but lock your car
