ForumsWEPR[nec]Christianity vs Atheism

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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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MRWalker82
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They are from two different accounts. The people writting the account probably estimated the number killed. One probably wanted to brag about it.


So then how do we know that other, more important aspects, of the bible are not simply "estimates"? Such as whether or not Jesus was a prophet, or if God is real, or if Noah really did build an ark?

This is the issue when a book claims to be true, then contradicts itself openly. The book proves that it cannot be 100% accurate, therefore the basis for any of it being accurate at all is completely tossed out the window, which if approached from a logical standpoint would make it clear that it is nothing more than a very popular fiction book.
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it's to show that human sacrifice is forbidden. It's setting an example through abraham.


Yes but what is the point if god knew what would happen? You completely avoided that part of the question.
MRWalker82
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That's because there is no logical answer. And how would asking him to commit a human sacrifice, then stopping him when he showed he was willing to do so, prove anything about whether or not sacrifice is forbidden or not? That's not even circular logic, that's just outright absurd and makes as much sense as a screen door on a submarine.

Andrake
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The whole theory of evolution is dumb. it cant just happen out of nowhere. SOMETHING must have caused this to happen. Big Bangs can't make life

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The whole theory of evolution is dumb. it cant just happen out of nowhere. SOMETHING must have caused this to happen. Big Bangs can't make life

Your ignorance astounds me.
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The whole theory of evolution is dumb. it cant just happen out of nowhere. SOMETHING must have caused this to happen. Big Bangs can't make life


Well the Big bang is a theory of how FREAKING MATTER was created, and we have proved that life can be made from nonliving matter...
Andrake
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And what is this non living matter and how have you proved it?

314d1
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And what is this non living matter and how have you proved it?


We dicided to find this thing called "evidence" and made some life ourselves... I think that counts as proof.

The non living matter was amino acids.
Andrake
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Did "amino acids" make the seperate genders? It's not a coincidence that we have the nessecary body parts to reproduce? To keep us living? I take amino acids daily with vitamins in pills. It's not amino acids.

Andrake
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And also, on Wikipedia, you cannot always guarentee that it tells the truth. That's been going on for years. Find another source

314d1
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Did "amino acids" make the seperate genders? It's not a coincidence that we have the nessecary body parts to reproduce? To keep us living? I take amino acids daily with vitamins in pills. It's not amino acids.


Nope. Evolution made separate genders, and technically we could be hermaphroditic or even asexual, though they may not work as well on complex humans... Evolution lead to the separate body parts, after the simple asexual creatures evolved enough to become primitive fish. You may not believe it, but amino acids create life... Protein is usually considered the "building block" witch is why you take it in vitamin pills, it helps build muscles and helps young ones grow.
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Well the Big bang is a theory of how FREAKING MATTER was created, and we have proved that life can be made from nonliving matter...


Actually it's about the expansion of the universe, not about how matter/energy was created.

The whole theory of evolution is dumb. it cant just happen out of nowhere. SOMETHING must have caused this to happen. Big Bangs can't make life


(Facepalm)

Big Bang theory says nothing about how life was created, neither does evolution. Big bang theory read above. Evolution is about the diversity of life. The leading theory on how life came from non life is called abiogenesis.

And what is this non living matter and how have you proved it?


I can't remember off the top of my head what was used but we did create a biological molecule from non living compounds in a recreated environment matching what we think existed on early Earth. While this doesn't prove that this is what happened exactly it does prove that it was very possible.
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Did "amino acids" make the seperate genders? It's not a coincidence that we have the nessecary body parts to reproduce? To keep us living? I take amino acids daily with vitamins in pills. It's not amino acids.

Those are called chromosomes
And also, on Wikipedia, you cannot always guarentee that it tells the truth. That's been going on for years. Find another source

If you actually knew what you were talking about he wouldn't have to explain every little detail to you. fyi that article looks correct.
314d1
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Actually it's about the expansion of the universe, not about how matter/energy was created.


You have to dumb it down a little for the creationist...
Andrake
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If we originated from monkeys, then how are they still alive today, but yet the other animals that originated from something before them, there is no sign of them.

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