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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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Nurvana
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Most atheists I know are intelligent and open minded.


Well I guess that shows how much you know. JK had to throw that in. *facepaws self*
LegendaryThunder
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LOL i had to see the responces to my completly biased opinion JK i dont have problems with atheism and that everyone has a right to their own opinion but if u start PPO u should just be quiet and thats my problem is when someone starts pointing out the flaws in my religion. Sorry for anyone i might of upset.


My dearest apologies,
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tomertheking
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Write clearly so we can understand, LegendaryThunder.

Jerrrd
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In response to some other posts about atheist being &quotsychopaths", let it be know that I am an atheist. I am very open minded (see earlier post) and have friends in many religions. My family is VERY christian and I love them dearly. What makes this possible? Open mindedness. I share my oppinions respectfully, and in turn surround myself with people who respect me. It's actually quite easy.

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-sigh- Although Thunder has apologized and stated that what he said wasn't his actual opinion - I still believe that counts as flaming. Anyway, in a break from the usual stuff, here be quotes about Atheism:

I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap. My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go. Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow-men.

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!. . . But He loves you!

God's power is infinite, Whatever he wills is executed; But neither man nor any other animal is happy; therefore he does not will their happiness. Epicurus' old questions are yet unanswered. Is he both able and willing to prevent evil? Then whence cometh evil?
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Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!. . . But He loves you!


Wrong. You only go if you don't truly accept Jesus Christ as your savior.

God's power is infinite, Whatever he wills is executed; But neither man nor any other animal is happy; therefore he does not will their happiness. Epicurus' old questions are yet unanswered. Is he both able and willing to prevent evil? Then whence cometh evil?


Who says man isn't happy? I prefer to think man is like a spoiled brat. We were given a lot, we just prefer to see the cup as half-empty.

God is ablt to prevent evil, but that would take away free will.
Avorne
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A. Really? So if I engaged in breaking all of the 10 commandments and then on my deathbed accepted christ - I'd still go to heaven? Sweet - Sins have no consequences!
B. We were given a lot? The poor and starving masses in countries like Zimbabwe and Ethopia 'were given a lot'?

thepossum
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Ah. I guess life and intelligence and getting to be rulers of the Earth aren't good after all...

Avorne
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Rulers of the Earth? How'd you come up with that shlep? We may have technology but that's taken us hundreds of thousands of years to get to. What's the point of life if it's miserable? And as for intelligence, that means we can think of more ways to harm each other.

thepossum
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And more ways to help each other. If you don't think we Rule the Earth, go grovel to some animals.

Avorne
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Our bodies are flawed - if God created us and gave us such brilliant gifts then why did he make our bodies so flawed? Considering we're 'Rulers of the Earth'.

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We don't rule the earth, really we don't. We have an important impact on it, and have managed to create an environment that is relatively safe, but we don't really control things.

Our bodies are flawed - if God created us and gave us such brilliant gifts then why did he make our bodies so flawed? Considering we're 'Rulers of the Earth'.

Good question. Our bodies are only halfway adapted to walking on two legs.. how many people have back aches? And how many more troubles do we have to fight daily?
God's power is infinite, Whatever he wills is executed; But neither man nor any other animal is happy; therefore he does not will their happiness. Epicurus' old questions are yet unanswered. Is he both able and willing to prevent evil? Then whence cometh evil?

We had an interesting discussion on a similar theme in phylosophy.. god is said to be benevolent, omniscient and omnipotent. But there is evil on earth as well as injustice and such things. So why doesn't god do anything? Either he knows about it and could help, but he doesn't want to. Or he would want to and knows about, but can't because he isn't omnipotent. Or he is benevolent and omnipotent, but just can't see it cuz he isn't omniscient. Either way, god can't be all three, or there wouldn't be such troubles on earth; so there's a problem with god somewhere.
Nurvana
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A. Really? So if I engaged in breaking all of the 10 commandments and then on my deathbed accepted christ - I'd still go to heaven? Sweet - Sins have no consequences!


Oh my God you're getting it I think i see a crack into th\\at mind of yours
Avorne
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So why was it necessary to kill the people of Sodom and Gomorrah? They could of repented before their deaths.

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I am a christian but i accept other religions. Just because you believe in something doesn't mean you have to hate someone because they don't believe them. I don't agree with their beliefs but i accept what they believe in.

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