ForumsWEPR[nec]Christianity vs Atheism

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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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Mobyduck
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God biggest mistake was giving free will then. If he wanted us to worship Him and follow the rules, then there would be no need of free will;

fourtytwo
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What's the point of making us then? To make us and not give us free will would be like making a robot, except the robot can't do anything.

thisisnotanalt
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He maybe wanted something that could bow down to him. I don't think the Bible mentions his motive.

Mobyduck
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Robots can bow down. If he created a creature to free will, he knew his creature would eventually stop worshiping him for some reason that might appear - such as the non-believing or the belief of another god.

Pixie214
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What's the point of making us then?


God created us for a purpose, to glorify Him


Why give us free will if our purpose is to glorify him. Why give a robot free will wjen its only job is to build a car.
thisisnotanalt
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Exactly. It just makes no sense. God gave us free will so we could be slaves to his glorify and glorify him forever? If he's omnipotent, then couldn't he just spawn glorification out of the blue through parthenoglorifcationisis?

fourtytwo
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Not having free will means you have no choices. Think about it. Choices are what make up your entire life. If you took choices out, then what are you left with? God made us with free will so that we can have fun on earth and in heaven. And you don't have to be drunk or go around killing random people to have fun either. I don't even see those things as fun.

If he's omnipotent, then couldn't he just spawn glorification out of the blue through parthenoglorifcationisis?
He could, but I don't think that is relevant to this discussion because, obviously, He didn't. He decided to make us.
thisisnotanalt
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Farmer

It was simply a hypothetical argument. Also, fourtytwo, could you *please* check your profile?

Mobyduck
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This is wierd, God gaves us the ability to make choices, but we can only choose what he things is better for us?

Also, different things gives different emotions for each person. Some like to hunt animals for fun, others like to read, while other like to watch TV. Not everyone is equal.

thisisnotanalt
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no mobyduck, we're just burned in a lake of flame and excrement forever if we make a bad choice and don't ask for forgiveness.

fourtytwo
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So why don't you atheists choose to ask for forgiveness? Why just sit there pondering about how we came about and coming up with pathetically inaccurate theories? That is something I really don't understand.

Pixie214
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So why don't you atheists choose to ask for forgiveness?


What would an atheist ask for forgiveness from?
fourtytwo
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What would an atheist ask for forgiveness from?
I'm assuming that was a typo and you meant "for" when you said "from". When I said "ask for forgiveness", I was speaking of whatever thisisnotanalt meant when he said "ask for forgiveness".
Mobyduck
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So why don't you atheists choose to ask for forgiveness?


But you said that just asking for forgivinees is usefull. We need to burn in hell a bit before understanting our mistake.

Why just sit there pondering about how we came about and coming up with pathetically inaccurate theories?


This is so unpolite. Don't God said to treat others like you want to be treaded? If we believe in evolution, who is you to say we are wrong? I don't come over your house to say that God doesn't exist.
Pixie214
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I'm assuming that was a typo


Sorry the first part was misguided...

"Who" would an atheist ask for forgiveness?
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