Yes, no, and no; in that order.
To use Moegreche's interpretation, I do not believe that every action has the same outcome. I am saying that the outcome is not changed by the action that is taken, because the action is what makes the outcome in the first place.
Indirectly you are coming at my point and Indirectly I am coming at your point. I think you know this but let me explain.
For example as you said before "
Can you change directions before you start moving?".
Imagin yourself walking somewhere and while walking you are going to the North direction. (As you said before future is fixed, the events which will occur when we will go to the north direction will occur).
Then suddenly you change your direction to the East. (Again as you said before future is fixed, the events which will occur when we will go to the Easth direction will occur).
But suddenly my point comes here that is "
Future constantly changes" I mean the future changes constantly according to our thinking or as you said "action".
Conclusion or in short :- There is a fixed future for every event but it can be change according to our thinking, action or dicision.
Okay, so according to your belief:
God created the universe and everything in it according to His plan.
God is all-knowing.
God created perfect humans to do His bidding.
Therefore, God knowingly orchestrated all of the corruption and cruelty in the world. Humans are doing exactly what He wants them to.
We can't blame God for our actions. According to the beliefs there are two things inside us they are "God and Devil" and what we are doing is the work of devil.
That is the definition of "Humaneness", which is something very different but looks almost like the same word. Humanity and humaneness have the same root, but they are not the same.
"Humanity" menas to be "Humane".
That was sarcasm. That's not how logic works. Parents and teachers can be wrong. I've had a teacher say that the sky was blue because it reflects off the ocean.
According to the beliefs the Parents and Teachers are referred like the messager of god or like angles. (Don't link it with teaching).
There are religious books in which deities desire sacrifices or other disturbing things. Which ones are you following?
We have discussed at this topic before, see past conversation you will get your answer.
You said: "This clearly indicates they have no humanity left in them."
You said: "This also comes in "Humanity"."
You've defined humanity as essentially "being kind and showing empathy"
If they have none, how does "This also comes in "Humanity""?
There was a statement before my statement that is of sir "FishPreffered". I was only answering to his statement don't link my statement with the statement of sir "MageGrayWolf".
You've defined it beyond that scope. You're conflating definitions. Equivocation. Switch-referencing.
No I am not, he asked me for subject means to whom I am referring to and I have gave the answer.
still don't get the gist about the reason as to why you take such stance. don't run away from the question
I am not running away from the question. My one answer gives the answer for two question so what's the problem?
you said SOME religious books don't you? then some books are conflicting with your supposed religious beliefs about god wants it right? and where is your argument as to why God sent us to earth to do "Great Things"? if god (Christian god) really sent us to earth to do great works, then why do you think there are multiple religions with multiple gods? (What i meant is why the world doesn't consist of only 1 unifying religion, but multiple religion with multiple gods and each with different beliefs. if God really sent us to do great works then why doesn't he just create a world inhabited by devout Christians? after all, He IS all powerful right ?).
This is written in religious books but not in a particular way.
The god have different names but he is only one. Its us who made different religions, god don't say us to make religions.
for a millionth time, please dig their rational explanation as to why they take such stance. humans can be wrong, you said it yourself that "i understand that no god is perfect", so why do you just assume that they are right about that? what if they are wrong?
According to the beliefs the Parents and Teachers are referred like the messager of god or like angles. (Don't link it with teaching). And So what if they are wrong at least they are telling us to go a right path.
ok then let me explain it very slowly:
MageGrayWolf said: "There are those who think that god who gave us the Earth will soon give us another one so it's okay if we don't make this Earth last for the future."
You said: "This clearly indicates they have no humanity left in them."
when Wolf says that, you say that they have no humanity in them.and then mysteriously and magically.....................
FishPreferred said: "No, actually, it doesn't. It suggests only that they believe their actions are not ultimately detrimental to the Earth."
You said: "This also comes in "Humanity"."
BAM!!!!! the person that doesn't has humanity in the previous comment have humanity now. this is your self negating argument as both your 1st and 2nd comment cancel out each other. your definition doesn't clarify that point either, as you said that humanity is the quality to being kind to other person,animals etc. As the person in question doesn't have those quality, then he doesn't have any humanity. so why does that person comes in humanity ? answer that
You are linking my statement with the statement of sir "MageGrayWolf". I was only and only answering to the statement of sir "FishPreffered".
