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TotalReview
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I haven't been on much lately so I decided I would post my own topic. I don't believe this topic has been done recently since I checked the stickied thread with topics. I will state my reasons on why I believe the death penalty should be put in place for all murderers. It is fine if you disagree but let's make this a good and clean debate. Don't just say "You are wrong." Alright, well here I go.

1) I will start off by saying that the death penalty (that is only for mass murderers) was recently stopped because they said the method was too painful. So, someone who brutally murdered one or more people should die besides feeling the same pain? Where is the justice in that? I believe that you should get what you give. If you do good deeds, then you should be rewarded nicely. If you kill someone, you should be killed.

2) The next part I will go into is jail. Oh yes, we make jail seem like the worst place possible. Bed, toilet, workout room, safety, and 3 square meals per day. Now, safety is different in different jails. I know that so it can't exactly be supported. However, why do we give them a workout room or some sort of a place to lift weights? I am curious to this. Okay, so we are making rapists stronger and making it easier for them to rape when they get out. Why do they need 3 square meals per day? I went to a soup kitchen last year and I almost cried at how many homeless walked in because they didn't have anything to eat. We are treating criminals better than people who never harmed anyone. Where is the justice in that? Don't tell me the homeless made bad choices because it can happen to anyone. Also, bad choices? What about the person who chose to kill someone? I think that angers me the most. Really, jail looks like heaven to some people so they hurt someone else.

3) I will go into the issue of money. It costs us around $30,000 per year to take care of ONE convict. Now, I am just supporting the death penalty for murderers. The people who never harmed anyone are taking care of people who killed other people. What is wrong with this picture? We are taking care of them instead of the poor who never hurt people. That money could go to so many good issues like cures and health care. I will say the green movement just for you, Carlie. Anyways, now you will say it costs too much to use the death penalty. I think we should kill the murderer the exact same way the murderer killed someone else. This leads me into my next point.

4) Can you imagine going through the pain of being killed? Let's take it through the victim's point of view. Can you imagine the torture of what happened before you died? The pain would be terrible if the murderer stabbed the victim 100 times. I know the victim would die before that but it shows a point. That is why I believe the murderer should be killed the same way. Let them feel what it is like to go through that. Now, let's take it through the family's point of view. Your relative was just murdered. Now, be honest, what would you like to happen to the person that killed them? You would most likely want them dead which is why the death penalty should be put in place.

5) I know we can't be 100% sure of who the murderer was. However, DNA is 99.99% so very close. Also, why would their DNA even be on the victim or around the scene of the crime? They most likely had something to do with it. That makes them eligible to receive the death penalty. Also, the people we are not sure of can be put in jail. Jails are over filling so criminals are being released earlier then their original sentences. I know this because my aunt was released about a year before her sentence was completely served.

I will state my final words. I want to make it even more clear that the death penalty should only be given to murderers. The other criminals can be put in jail. The murderer should feel the same pain the victim did. Rotting in jail is a bunch of bull. Yes, to some it is crap while it is heaven to others. Why are we paying for murderers to have a life with food and beds? You would want the murderer of your family member dead. You would not just say they can go to jail. DNA is not exact but it is only .01% possibly wrong. That is pretty darn good. You may say two wrongs don't make a right but that makes no sense at all. So, if someone cheats on a test and is given a failing grade for cheating...would you say that then? The same applies to the death penalty. The death penalty is simply a consequence for their actions.

I would love to debate someone on this issue but please read my whole post before posting. It makes the debate more enjoyable if you post your feelings to each of my points and then state your final words. Thanks and also keep it on topic.

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WeeMan147
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Once all your appeals are used up, straight to the the execution. No point in keeping all these people sitting around throwing feces at the guards all day. I am all for the death penalty. The problem with giving the state the power of when to use the death penalty is that they will always sentence people one step lower than the death penalty so that they will never use it. I think if you get more than one life sentence that you should be put to death.

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I am all for the death penalty.


Jeez, we have to agree on everything. Haha, I was looking forward to a debate with you. I am glad to see you are for the death penalty though.

The problem with giving the state the power of when to use the death penalty is that they will always sentence people one step lower than the death penalty so that they will never use it.


True, I think all of the state representatives should get together and talk this out. Then, we can have one national death penalty law which pretty much everyone can approve of.
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The system is broken. Too many minorities are put on death row. African Americans commit about 30% of violent crime, yet 60% of people on death row are African American. Women commit 10% of violent crime, yet less than 1% of people on death row are women. There is obviously a problem because men and minorities are given the death penalty much more then women and whites.

BTW, it is more expensive to put someone to death than it is to hold them in prison forever. The appeals process in a death penalty case costs tens of millions of dollars per person. While holding someone in prison for life will cost $1-3 million, depending on how long they live.

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omg, not this minority crap. That is a whole bunch of lies, where did you get your numbers? Did you make them up? You need hard, true evidence before posting this.

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@thepyro222

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=105

Drace
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The appeals process in a death penalty case costs tens of millions of dollars per person.


Can't we just use a gun to the head?
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@thepyro222

There are some differences in stats between studies, but minorities are targeted much more.

@Drace

This proves that you desire a total dictatorship and have no respect for human rights.

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Well, if the death penalty was brought in, only those found guilty with enough DNA and evidence would be put to execution. Those studies are a trick of the numbers. Let's say 100 people committed a violent crime. 30 African American men were part of that. Only 20 people are put on death row. 12 of them are African American men because those men were clearly found guilty. It shows that they are not going to put people on death row if they are not clearly found guilty.

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Great point, totalreview

Drace
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This proves that you desire a total dictatorship and have no respect for human rights.


Or that I understand what human rights are and seek the easiest solution would making crap up?
Drace
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easiest solution would making crap up


I mean without* not would.

What is wrong with killing a criminal the way they killed somebody?
purpledinosaur
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the electric chair is outlawed in all 50 states and right now it is mostly by lethal injection and I love the death penalty to save money and lives woohoo

Programpro
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What is wrong with killing a criminal the way they killed somebody?


It's complicated and more costly than pill/injection (plus you'd need to dig up paperwork on every criminal to find out just how they did it)
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KILL EM ALL!!! were wasting our money on criminals

Programpro
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hey, remember when the creator of this page said to have the 5 points. Well, that was must've been while back because no one's doing it now.

And silentclore, could you please explain?

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