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I haven't been on much lately so I decided I would post my own topic. I don't believe this topic has been done recently since I checked the stickied thread with topics. I will state my reasons on why I believe the death penalty should be put in place for all murderers. It is fine if you disagree but let's make this a good and clean debate. Don't just say "You are wrong." Alright, well here I go.

1) I will start off by saying that the death penalty (that is only for mass murderers) was recently stopped because they said the method was too painful. So, someone who brutally murdered one or more people should die besides feeling the same pain? Where is the justice in that? I believe that you should get what you give. If you do good deeds, then you should be rewarded nicely. If you kill someone, you should be killed.

2) The next part I will go into is jail. Oh yes, we make jail seem like the worst place possible. Bed, toilet, workout room, safety, and 3 square meals per day. Now, safety is different in different jails. I know that so it can't exactly be supported. However, why do we give them a workout room or some sort of a place to lift weights? I am curious to this. Okay, so we are making rapists stronger and making it easier for them to rape when they get out. Why do they need 3 square meals per day? I went to a soup kitchen last year and I almost cried at how many homeless walked in because they didn't have anything to eat. We are treating criminals better than people who never harmed anyone. Where is the justice in that? Don't tell me the homeless made bad choices because it can happen to anyone. Also, bad choices? What about the person who chose to kill someone? I think that angers me the most. Really, jail looks like heaven to some people so they hurt someone else.

3) I will go into the issue of money. It costs us around $30,000 per year to take care of ONE convict. Now, I am just supporting the death penalty for murderers. The people who never harmed anyone are taking care of people who killed other people. What is wrong with this picture? We are taking care of them instead of the poor who never hurt people. That money could go to so many good issues like cures and health care. I will say the green movement just for you, Carlie. Anyways, now you will say it costs too much to use the death penalty. I think we should kill the murderer the exact same way the murderer killed someone else. This leads me into my next point.

4) Can you imagine going through the pain of being killed? Let's take it through the victim's point of view. Can you imagine the torture of what happened before you died? The pain would be terrible if the murderer stabbed the victim 100 times. I know the victim would die before that but it shows a point. That is why I believe the murderer should be killed the same way. Let them feel what it is like to go through that. Now, let's take it through the family's point of view. Your relative was just murdered. Now, be honest, what would you like to happen to the person that killed them? You would most likely want them dead which is why the death penalty should be put in place.

5) I know we can't be 100% sure of who the murderer was. However, DNA is 99.99% so very close. Also, why would their DNA even be on the victim or around the scene of the crime? They most likely had something to do with it. That makes them eligible to receive the death penalty. Also, the people we are not sure of can be put in jail. Jails are over filling so criminals are being released earlier then their original sentences. I know this because my aunt was released about a year before her sentence was completely served.

I will state my final words. I want to make it even more clear that the death penalty should only be given to murderers. The other criminals can be put in jail. The murderer should feel the same pain the victim did. Rotting in jail is a bunch of bull. Yes, to some it is crap while it is heaven to others. Why are we paying for murderers to have a life with food and beds? You would want the murderer of your family member dead. You would not just say they can go to jail. DNA is not exact but it is only .01% possibly wrong. That is pretty darn good. You may say two wrongs don't make a right but that makes no sense at all. So, if someone cheats on a test and is given a failing grade for cheating...would you say that then? The same applies to the death penalty. The death penalty is simply a consequence for their actions.

I would love to debate someone on this issue but please read my whole post before posting. It makes the debate more enjoyable if you post your feelings to each of my points and then state your final words. Thanks and also keep it on topic.

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xeden
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when you murder some one, however you killed them is how you should be killed, for example,
if you rape somone until they die, the buy all means, attach a broom stick to a jack hammer and let him die...
And when some one is in jail for life... just kill them, society would be so much more prosperous if the death penalty were enforced with the same enthusiasm as other countries...

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and for thos of you who think there is no quick and effecient death... a guillotine out in the middle of the desert should do the trick.
but why do we need to spend so much money on finding ways for the killer or rapest/rapist not to suffer when there victems did?

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It's complicated and more costly than pill/injection


A gun to the head is pretty cheap, nice, and efficient. Hangings too are nice and efficient.

I don't see a reason to argue on how to execute
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hey, remember when the creator of this page said to have the 5 points.


Not many people on here are mature enough to read. Also, I was expecting more people to disagree with me.

a guillotine out in the middle of the desert should do the trick.


Flying/driving all of the criminals out there would be a pain. Anyways, the reason they need to be killed the same way is so it stops these violent murders. It might not necessarily lower the murder stats but it will lower violent murder stats. I doubt someone would chop another person up if they knew the same would happen to them.
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Also, I was expecting more people to disagree with me.


I too. This conversation seems to be over...

Total, what execution method would you prefer?
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Total, what execution method would you prefer?


Well, killing them the same way might take more time. However, it will teach a lesson. No one is going to want to cut up people when they realize the same will happen to them.
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hey, remember when the creator of this page said to have the 5 points.
Not many people on here are mature enough to read. Also, I was expecting more people to disagree with me.
a guillotine out in the middle of the desert should do the trick.
Flying/driving all of the criminals out there would be a pain. Anyways, the reason they need to be killed the same way is so it stops these violent murders. It might not necessarily lower the murder stats but it will lower violent murder stats. I doubt someone would chop another person up if they knew the same would happen to them

thata whole desert thing was just so people would stop looking for way to painlessly kill someone without cleanup... if it were up to me id defenetly say the whole "be executed the same way you killed" thing works best...

and TotalReview, please dont call anyone immature, I might only be fifteen, but everyone can have there opinion, no matter what the validity of it is... and besides, what you see as valid probably seems foolish to some one out there...

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and TotalReview, please dont call anyone immature, I might only be fifteen, but everyone can have there opinion, no matter what the validity of it is... and besides, what you see as valid probably seems foolish to some one out there...


First of all, it was just a small joke. It does not take maturity to read. Second, I never even said people's opinions were wrong. Third, you need to relax because it was just a small joke. I know it might not have been obvious but I figured people would get it.

Anyways, to get this back on topic, if there are two suspects in a murder, do you think law enforcement should torture them until someone says something? This has been brought up before and I think that is too much. DNA and evidence are good enough to show who was the murderer. If we are not sure, let those murderers in jail until future technology can determine it.
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I am all for Death Penalty being that it is cheaper than jail, and more effective.
Only if they've committed first-degree murder. If your gun discharges in you pocket and shoots the person next to you then you shouldn't die for that...

Graham mentioned on the first page the Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth philosophy which I'm all for. It makes more sense than a lot of other laws in this day in age.

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You know, all the death penalties in the last 50 years have been used for serial killers. The eye for eye thing does not apply in todays world.

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If your gun discharges in you pocket and shoots the person next to you then you shouldn't die for that...


You bring up a good point. What if the murder is accidental? Such as, let's say the driver in a car gets in a car crash and the passenger dies. I think they should be put in jail for however long it is. They have to be careful though to check that the murder is really accidental and doesn't just look like an accident.
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I know that it doesn't apply in this day, but I was saying that maybe it should.

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if it's accidental, I'm pretty sure it is manslaughter--not a degree of murder.

The difference in degrees of murder are in whether you planned it or if it was impulsive. (Planned = more serious degree)

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Okay, now what about self defense? If someone shoots and kills another because they feel their safety is at risk, what should be done? I think those cases should be put under careful examination to make sure it was self defense. If it was, the person should be free to go. If it wasn't, death penalty.

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death penalty's i guess do help save money like u said AND makes space in the jails for less severe crimes (the jails are getting more full when noone dies) (like in other countrys)

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