I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?
K ffs... This is why you dont argue with athiests.. I dont know how many times ive tried to tell ppl this, but no matter what your faith is, dont argue with an athiest. 2 reasons. The first one is that no matter what you say, they will probably win... This second reason explains the first. They have no faith. They cant follow faith, because its not a "scientifical fact". And it just troubles them to no end and they cant understand how ppl can follow something they cant see. Really athiesm is one of those religions that should basically have some supped up science textbook as there bible. Its basically not a religion.. Religion involves faith, and there is no faith in understanding that trees are made up of cells..
Umm DUH. Aithiesm is for people who don't believe in a diety, not a riligion...
Because it uses the exact same logic and has the exact same ammount of credibility.
umm yeaaa not really. it has no where the same amount of credibility. One guy is speaking about his faith, and one guy is being a massive c.ock about it... We believe God made the earth, and everything around us is because he made it that way.. Where as a giant speghetti monster would probably have covered this whole world in some yummy red sauce, and meatballs would be everywhere. And let me tell you, i will not stand to have meatballs everywhere.
umm yeaaa not really. it has no where the same amount of credibility. One guy is speaking about his faith, and one guy is being a massive c.ock about it... We believe God made the earth, and everything around us is because he made it that way.. Where as a giant speghetti monster would probably have covered this whole world in some yummy red sauce, and meatballs would be everywhere. And let me tell you, i will not stand to have meatballs everywhere.
I can use that logic to....
No, because if the Crisian god made the world there whould be no violance, no war, and no poverty, and the spegetti monster made things this way.
No, because if the Crisian god made the world there whould be no violance, no war, and no poverty,
And thats a little bit of ignorant thinking.. Well actually verry verry ignorant thinking. God made the world as he saw fit. He figured he'd let everyone have there own ideas, and ideals. Therefore we are able to do anything we want, without him being like an overobsessed angry mommy. Im pretty sure we wouldnt want that would we???
K rlly.. Were going on about this retarded spegetti monster. Yes spegetti would make humans live on a planet eating there kind. Like are ppl just filled with crack on this site???
K rlly.. Were going on about this retarded spegetti monster. Yes spegetti would make humans live on a planet eating there kind. Like are ppl just filled with crack on this site???
Once again, using Christian logic, he put spagetti on earth so we could symbolocally eat his flesh to live forever in his glory (Sound fimmiliar, no?)
And thats a little bit of ignorant thinking.. Well actually verry verry ignorant thinking. God made the world as he saw fit. He figured he'd let everyone have there own ideas, and ideals. Therefore we are able to do anything we want, without him being like an overobsessed angry mommy. Im pretty sure we wouldnt want that would we???
That still whould not explain poverty. And with that thinking, why did he help some people that believed in him, EX David and Goliath, while not helping the others?
The first one is that no matter what you say, they will probably win.
Yeah that's kind of the nice thing about having evidence to back up what your saying instead of baseless assumptions.
They have no faith. They cant follow faith, because its not a "scientifical fact". And it just troubles them to no end and they cant understand how ppl can follow something they cant see.
How is following something with out anything to back it up not silly?
Really athiesm is one of those religions that should basically have some supped up science textbook as there bible.
To use someone else's example, atheism is as much a religion as not collecting stamps is a hobby. Atheism is a lack of belief.
Its basically not a religion..
Yep that's right, it's not. How many atheists have you run into claiming it is?
No matter what relegion you are, dont try and describe Gods "miracles" to them either. It just makes them laugh and think how retarded we are for believing that.
Haven't seen anything that could be called a miracle. Except Miracle Whip, that stuffs good.
umm yeaaa not really. it has no where the same amount of credibility.
The point is there is as much evidence for a spaghetti monster as there is for the God you believe in. It doesn't matter how much yo believe in God or not without any evidence to back up the claim the credibility of that claim remains the same.
Therefore we are able to do anything we want, without him being like an overobsessed angry mommy.
Yeah good thing he isn't like that. We wouldn't want him getting POed at us and punishing us with suffering then drowning nearly everyone..oh wait.
Yeah that's kind of the nice thing about having evidence to back up what your saying instead of baseless assumptions.
Well first id like to take this opportunity to say that i love it when ppl pick apart what i right sentence by sentence, so they can make there own words sound btr. Gotta say its quite cliche on this website, so i might as well do it. Its great you got facts, but its also amazing how you aren't able to have any belief, or even faith. Like congrats that your able to live a simple scientifcal life, trying to explain how everything "spiritual" doesn't exist. Its facinating to see the lengths some ppl go through to try and show the false in religions.
How is following something with out anything to back it up not silly?
Um blind faith... Yup its the most craziest thing (i admit), and yet it keeps 3 quarters of the world sane... Wow weird huh..
Yep that's right, it's not. How many atheists have you run into claiming it is?
lol basically every time i hear someone saying there athiest, is in exact quotes "I believe in athiesm".. hence the i believe part. So yea, condering belief is a dulled down word for faith, i guess they propose that it is a religion. =0.
Haven't seen anything that could be called a miracle. Except Miracle Whip, that stuffs good.
Well thats true, im sorry i cant even argue with that there. Miracle whip is simply scrumptious. But for the first part, Thats where faith comes in, but then again, have you searched up anything even loosely based on a miracle in our times? For instance, even something small like a family escaping a house fire. Some people classify that as a miracle, or even a work of God. Just putting that out there.
The point is there is as much evidence for a spaghetti monster as there is for the God you believe in. It doesn't matter how much yo believe in God or not without any evidence to back up the claim the credibility of that claim remains the same.
Not really, cuz the only people out there that always need this so called credibility are athiests. None of us religious believers take the time, and energy to really look into every single fact of christianity. Like sure there are some stories that can be classified as ridiculous. But being part of the catholic community, means that your able to understand the morals, and lessons being taught behind these stories, not the upfront story itself.
Yeah good thing he isn't like that. We wouldn't want him getting POed at us and punishing us with suffering then drowning nearly everyone..oh wait.
K so throughout this whole thread your dissing christianity, saying how God isn't real, and how basically were all stupid because we're following blind faith, something you just cant do. And yet you decide to use stories from the bible to try and argue with us... Congrats on being absolutely hippocritical there buddy. big E for effort though
Well first id like to take this opportunity to say that i love it when ppl pick apart what i right sentence by sentence, so they can make there own words sound btr. Gotta say its quite cliche on this website, so i might as well do it. Its great you got facts, but its also amazing how you aren't able to have any belief, or even faith. Like congrats that your able to live a simple scientifcal life, trying to explain how everything "spiritual" doesn't exist. Its facinating to see the lengths some ppl go through to try and show the false in religions
Its not working for you.... And people go to greater lengths to try and prove it.
Um blind faith... Yup its the most craziest thing (i admit), and yet it keeps 3 quarters of the world sane... Wow weird huh..
They think it keeps them sane, but it actually doesen't. People were fine before riligion and will be fine long after, and a good portion of insane people are riligouse.
Well thats true, im sorry i cant even argue with that there. Miracle whip is simply scrumptious. But for the first part, Thats where faith comes in, but then again, have you searched up anything even loosely based on a miracle in our times? For instance, even something small like a family escaping a house fire. Some people classify that as a miracle, or even a work of God. Just putting that out there.
If you think that way, then lets say an aitiest excapes a fire while a Cristian dies. Real merical, huh? If it was an act of god, then he whould have saved the other one, no?
Not really, cuz the only people out there that always need this so called credibility are athiests. None of us religious believers take the time, and energy to really look into every single fact of christianity. Like sure there are some stories that can be classified as ridiculous. But being part of the catholic community, means that your able to understand the morals, and lessons being taught behind these stories, not the upfront story itself.
No duh, again. If you need credibility then you whouldn't be riligouse. Thats even what your saying. Your saying that the people who look into it no longer believe in it, thus it is false.
And why does everyone think that aitiest have no morall and are depressed? I have more moral then maney Christians.
K so throughout this whole thread your dissing christianity, saying how God isn't real, and how basically were all stupid because we're following blind faith, something you just cant do. And yet you decide to use stories from the bible to try and argue with us... Congrats on being absolutely hippocritical there buddy. big E for effort though
He is bieng sarcastic, you just said that he was fine with letting us do whatever, but then he flooded the world because he didn't like what we were doing. Open your eyes and read...
We believe God made the earth, and everything around us is because he made it that way.. Where as a giant speghetti monster would probably have covered this whole world in some yummy red sauce, and meatballs would be everywhere. And let me tell you, i will not stand to have meatballs everywhere.
By that logic God would have covered the world in skin and organs. The FSM is to great for you to understand him.
but its also amazing how you aren't able to have any belief, or even faith. Like congrats that your able to live a simple scientifcal life, trying to explain how everything "spiritual" doesn't exist. Its facinating to see the lengths some ppl go through to try and show the false in religions
First of all I can and do believe things, I just require soem form of evidence first. So what I don't have is faith which is believing without evidence. Nor would I want to place my beliefs in something that is unfounded. Second science isn't out to disprove everything spiritual. It's out to find the truth through the evidence. It's just more often the not the facts contradict scripture. So like Joe Friday would say "Just the facts".
Um blind faith... Yup its the most craziest thing (i admit), and yet it keeps 3 quarters of the world sane... Wow weird huh..
As 341d1 said, even if misspelled.
and a good portion of insane people are riligouse.
lol basically every time i hear someone saying there athiest, is in exact quotes "I believe in athiesm".. hence the i believe part. So yea, condering belief is a dulled down word for faith, i guess they propose that it is a religion. =0.
The statement "I believe in athiesm" is contradictory it's basically saying "I believe in disbelieving in a deity". Sounds kinda silly doesn't it? Chances are these people are simply confused as to what atheism is. So now the next time you hear someone say that you can tell them there wrong. It's just having a disbelief in a deity/ies.
have you searched up anything even loosely based on a miracle in our times? For instance, even something small like a family escaping a house fire. Some people classify that as a miracle, or even a work of God. Just putting that out there.
So your calling something that could happen with or without a god is miracle?
Not really, cuz the only people out there that always need this so called credibility are athiests. None of us religious believers take the time, and energy to really look into every single fact of christianity.
So if we don't fact check we don't need credibility? FAIL.
K so throughout this whole thread your dissing christianity, saying how God isn't real, and how basically were all stupid because we're following blind faith, something you just cant do. And yet you decide to use stories from the bible to try and argue with us... Congrats on being absolutely hippocritical there buddy. big E for effort though
Yes I can use stories from the Bible to argue your own inconsistencies. It doesn't require me to believe the stories to be true. I can believe Star Trek to be the work of fiction and think it ridiculous to see it as an accurate view of the future. But if someone was to say Spock wasn't part Vulcan. I could reply with "Well I guess that explains why he doesn't have pointed ears and green blood...oh wait." So no it's not hypocritical.
Its facinating to see the lengths some ppl go through to try and show the false in religions.
It's even more interesting to see how religious worshippers are unable to see past their beliefs. We have to push hard to have you all acknowledge the fact that beliefs are nothing in relation to reality.
It's even more interesting to see how religious worshippers are unable to see past their beliefs. We have to push hard to have you all acknowledge the fact that beliefs are nothing in relation to reality.
... K i myself am a christian.. yes we all understand that now. I never go to church, and have never read the bible at all... yes i know gasp.. Im not a hardcore catholic, unlike other christians i know. Im just the type of guy that sticks up for his beliefs, his friends, and his family no matter what happens. Now im gonna tell you this. The way every athiest on this site describes the falses is christianity, sounds like a direct attack saying how we shouldnt believe in what we believe. I know (hopefully) most of you dont mean it like that, but are just trying to describe your own beliefs. Now this post kinda made me realize something. We dont see all our beliefs in everyday reality. But i will tell you how i see things...
God is just some guy up there saving us all room when we die, if we've lived our life helping others, and treating others the way we want to be treated. I personally find comfort in knowing that if i was to die right now, i could have a possibility of going to this great place. It may sound crazy, but id rather think that, than think im just going to die and thats it.. Cuz i kinda dont want to die, if theres nothing thats going to come out of it. Also i find that if any life is rescued, no matter how, its a miracle. And no god wouldnt save a christian over an athiest. If you had the choice, would you save one life over the other because he was an athiest? And by saying you have to push hard to make us see things your way, its right you do. Because before you say see it this way, you use your pick apart sentences techniques to attack other religions... Yea basically as of now its 1 vs 3 here because all other christians on this site are to pussy to stick up for anything they believe in..
Its very tiresome, when you try and argue with someone that cant believe anything else other than true fact.. And its especially retarded to realize that all they were trying to do was make us see... reality??? We know what it is. But we can also see the spiritual side of alot of things. It makes us happy, but of course none of you understand because its not coming out of a science text book. So before trying to make us understand your side of things (which we already know cuz we learned it in science class...) try to maybe understand our sides of things..
Its impressive to see that three wait now 4 ppl have to attack me.. Am i actually interupting your winning this whole debate about how theres no such thing as heaven, because you cant find any facts about it on earth.. wow even me sayin that is just ridiculous. Anyways if there is any christians out there, maybe try to defend your religion... Its kinda a bit coward to stand off to the side while you let a bunch of athiests try and push there way into a debate based upon religion...
Its facinating to see the lengths some ppl go through to try and show the false in religions. It's even more interesting to see how religious worshippers are unable to see past their beliefs. We have to push hard to have you all acknowledge the fact that beliefs are nothing in relation to reality Ah, you bloody hypocrit! I bet you atheists can see past you're "OMG science is everything", either! Haha! LOL LOL LOL
Because science has facts behind it, while riligion is random for the most part...
Let me ask you somthing . Is the world falling apart each minute or getting better ? Are you getting older and falling apart , or are you always young ? For evolution to be real things would have to be getting better every day and progressing . But that is not happening at all . People are deing , pollution is every where , and there are only limited amounts of resources on earth . Science is limited , God is not .
