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jonnypants23
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I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?

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MageGrayWolf
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Well Mage, it's not our fault! Where's the proof!


That's exactly the problem with it.

Where's the proof! I still haven't decided if I believe or not...


Well if there is not proof for some then it's reasonable to believe it doesn't exist.
Dubness2
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Yep if you even think God doesn't exist your going to hell. Considering he offers no proof of his existence this is pretty pathetic.

Thats if you totally openly deny his existence. Like you will never face Him, then you are totally "damned". You can think, and doubt and question all you want, but you cannot deny Him.
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Thats if you totally openly deny his existence


That and if you never "knew" him in the first place. Those who go to heaven must believe in god eh? What about those who never have heard of such a deity? Will they go to heaven to, or will they suffer the same fate as us Atheists do? Ironic yes, but just going in the perspective of a Christian.

You can think, and doubt and question all you want, but you cannot deny Him.


You would think that questioning the methods of a god wouldn't exactly be the smartest thing to do. "I believe in you god, but I don't like how you work! You can send me to heaven and stuff, but I'm not gonna like it!" You're denying his actions and the way he works. I think that goes along the same path, but that's only Me.
Dubness2
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You would think that questioning the methods of a god wouldn't exactly be the smartest thing to do. "I believe in you god, but I don't like how you work! You can send me to heaven and stuff, but I'm not gonna like it!" You're denying his actions and the way he works. I think that goes along the same path, but that's only Me.

His power is to great to even think about it like that, thats what I use to question as a kid. But its really hard to explain I guess, you just have to let Him and explain by excepting God into your heart. Thats how I learned. But I know a lot of ya'll won't and thus not understanding fully.
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Haha Deagle, God forgives!


He better considering how many times I....
*looks around* Is every body here 18 and older?

You can think, and doubt and question all you want, but you cannot deny Him.


I can deny God. God, you don't believe in you and your teachings. There. done and done.

you just have to let Him and explain by excepting God into your heart. Thats how I learned. But I know a lot of ya'll won't and thus not understanding fully.


accepting God into my heart? Do I take some kind of blessed heart pills? /lame joke

Its kinda hard to believe in something, yet alone love something, that isn't tangible on Earth.
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His power is to great to even think about it like that, thats what I use to question as a kid. But its really hard to explain I guess, you just have to let Him and explain by excepting God into your heart. Thats how I learned. But I know a lot of ya'll won't and thus not understanding fully.



If he is truely omnipotent, then he whould be able to explain theoretical phisics to a rock and the rock whould understand, thus be able to tell us somthing impossible to tell....


And has anyone notice that the term "comes from the heart" comes from outdated science where they basically got the hearts function and the brains function backwords? If that is truelly in the bible it is just another example of false science.
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Don't talk about Constantine, even though I am Greek I really dislike him. He was a criminal and a cruel tyrant, who slaughtered his enemies, which were mostly Romans, but the Orthodox Church and Catholic Churches of Byzantine rite, list both Constantine and his mother Helena as saints. He is also revered under the title "The Great" for his contributions to Christianity.
This "saint" strongly encouraged Maximian's suicide and defeated all his contenders to the Roman throne.

MageGrayWolf
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His power is to great to even think about it like that, thats what I use to question as a kid. But its really hard to explain I guess, you just have to let Him and explain by excepting God into your heart. Thats how I learned. But I know a lot of ya'll won't and thus not understanding fully.


That sounds like a cop out answer and you don't appear to have learned anything with this.

If he is truely omnipotent, then he whould be able to explain theoretical phisics to a rock and the rock whould understand, thus be able to tell us somthing impossible to tell....


For the Bible to be the word of God I would expect something added to the Bible that the writers couldn't have known or made up. For instance it could have a passage that reads "The Lord our God has instructed me to inscribe strange symbols. I do not understand what they mean but he has assured me that in time all will be revealed." then in English had E=MC2 written there.

And has anyone notice that the term "comes from the heart" comes from outdated science where they basically got the hearts function and the brains function backwords? If that is truelly in the bible it is just another example of false science.


Yes I noticed. Goes along with the rest of the backwards outdated thinking.
jonnypants23
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Well if there is not proof for some then it's reasonable to believe it doesn't exist.


How in the world is there NO proof ! Just look around you , God made everything !
MageGrayWolf
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How in the world is there NO proof ! Just look around you , God made everything !


That's proof stuff exists but not proof that a deity made it all.
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How in the world is there NO proof ! Just look around you , God made everything !


Can you prove that?^^
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How in the world is there NO proof ! Just look around you , God made everything !


With that type of reasoning, I can easily conclude that The Great Spaghetti Monster created the universe, not God. From the postulate that there is stuff around me, accurate conclusions cannot be made.
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K ffs... This is why you dont argue with athiests.. I dont know how many times ive tried to tell ppl this, but no matter what your faith is, dont argue with an athiest. 2 reasons. The first one is that no matter what you say, they will probably win... This second reason explains the first. They have no faith. They cant follow faith, because its not a "scientifical fact". And it just troubles them to no end and they cant understand how ppl can follow something they cant see. Really athiesm is one of those religions that should basically have some supped up science textbook as there bible. Its basically not a religion.. Religion involves faith, and there is no faith in understanding that trees are made up of cells..

No matter what relegion you are, dont try and describe Gods "miracles" to them either. It just makes them laugh and think how retarded we are for believing that.

With that type of reasoning, I can easily conclude that The Great Spaghetti Monster created the universe, not God. From the postulate that there is stuff around me, accurate conclusions cannot be made.

Typical athiest saying =S... Good job turning around ones saying and making it your own.

grimml
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The first one is that no matter what you say, they will probably win...


Sure, because they have arguments and not only a book or pure faith.
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Typical athiest saying =S... Good job turning around ones saying and making it your own.

Because it uses the exact same logic and has the exact same ammount of credibility.
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