I saw yet another video of a group of protestors burning the American flag. The disgust me! Please tell me someone else out here agrees that it is wrong and should be illegal.
Probably only in the states and a few other countries.
Burning the US flag can be considered treasonous.
Depends on who burns it.
Burning the flag is supposed to provoke, and it marvels at this. It shows that those who burn it hate the country and/or what they represent. They could also do a bunch of graffitis. Is there such a great difference?
Against the state. It is pretty self explanatory if you know what treason is. That's like me saying "Punching a dumb guy is bad." and you asking "Bad for whom?"
It is in the sentence.
Probably only in the states and a few other countries.
Why would I talk about other countries in a thread about the US flag?
Depends on who burns it.
Not really. It doesn't matter if the president or some homeless person burns it. Treason is treason is treason.
What I meant is: depends if an american burns an american flag, or if a japanese burns the american flag in japan.
Any US citizen burning the US flag, on US soil, can be considered a traitor. Anybody not naturalized as a US citizen burning the US flag, on US soil, can be considered a hater.
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Burning the US flag can be considered a crime, indirectly. I am not saying it should be (I have no stance on the matter), but all I am saying is it could be found to be treasonous.
Any US citizen burning the US flag, on US soil, can be considered a traitor.
I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. -James A. Baldwin
Burning the flag is only traitorous to those to nearsighted to realize that the country might not be going in the correct direction. America is less a piece of land and more a collective of the ideals of it's people and as ideas evolves the country itself evolves. Burning the flag makes you a traitor to these ideas, a traitor to the direction that the country finds itself going in. Quite luckily for those who burn the flag our Founding Fathers were traitorous to the way the country was going in there day, and many other great leaders were traitors to there time.
Having the balls to criticize the ideals of the country in hopes that they might change for the better should be revered not hated.
Burning the flag is only traitorous to those to nearsighted to realize that the country might not be going in the correct direction. America is less a piece of land and more a collective of the ideals of it's people and as ideas evolves the country itself evolves. Burning the flag makes you a traitor to these ideas, a traitor to the direction that the country finds itself going in. Quite luckily for those who burn the flag our Founding Fathers were traitorous to the way the country was going in there day, and many other great leaders were traitors to there time.
Having the balls to criticize the ideals of the country in hopes that they might change for the better should be revered not hated.
Burning the US flag can be considered traitorous to the country in itself, not the politics, government, or people.
i think they should be made example of.. they want to burn our flag? well burn their homes, and well burn their cars. anyone who ever even thinks about doing that should eat a fricken bullet. i cant believe anybody would do that. i saw a man waving a commy flag when barack was elected and punched a hole through my wall...
violence is not an answer to violence. well it is, but not a good one.
burning a flag shouldn't be illigal, as stupidity isn't illegal. if burnig a flag is illigal, you can make alot of things illegal.
if you don't like a country, or if your government commends you to do stupid things, just interpret it different! when the netherlands were conquered by the nazi's, they demanded to hang a nazi flag at every official building (including schools and churches.) so what did they do? they hang a nazi flag... at the toilet.
::Me and my friends just burned an American flag the other day, it didn't burn well due to the fact is was made of plastic, but we burned it. And not because we hate America or it's government, we did it just because we can and we love America for letting us do what we can. So don't think it's a frontal assault on all of America, it could be many reasons, such as drunkenness, pure stupidity, pyromania, boredom, anarchism, and more. (Anarchism isn't the hate of America, it's the hate of how the government isn't doing what they want it to do.)
::But the constitution says 'freedom of speech' and it is the supreme law of the land. Thus, if anyone would be arrested for "treason" by the state, it would be considered unconstitutional and dealt with accordingly.
Violence is not the answer, but burning the American Flag is stupid.
Proponents of the anti-flag-burning seem to so often be like, "Oh! This Wonderful Country. How Dare you Step in its Face by Burning this piece of Fabric which is a Symbol of the People who Died for Our Country and This Shows You are not Patriotic. And Patriotism should be mandatory."
Correct me if they are not like this, and simultaneously present a logical argument PLEASE.
but i think the burning of the american flag is an obvious note to take up on. why would you need to do this in the first place? Well, i'm sure for other countries who despise the US would, or those who despise their own country. I find it disrespectful, though it's not so much of a crime as it is just freedom of speech. it's not the end of the world if a flag is burned, it's just showing their feelings about it. I wouldn't take it as such a delinquit thing to do, though it is bad. Like jaywalking, for example.
I mean the proponents of making it illegal all have the outlook that America is free and all, and then they say that they can infringe on people's freedom to protect freedom...do you see the irony?
Burning the US flag can be considered traitorous to the country in itself, not the politics, government, or people.
Government, politics and people are what make a country The earth beneath your feet does not care about your flag.
This is what I believe most who disagree with burning the flag feel...
They care about the land beneath their feet called USA which they use this flag to represent. Because of this love for the land and the association with the flag, they get angry that someone is "burning" their country and insulting those that love their country.
I think that sums it up Im sure most would agree. This is also pretty much what a patriot is, someone who loves their country.
Now its one thing to dislike someone burning a flag but another thing entirely to believe someone should be punished for it.
As has been said by others, if you make this illegal then what else should be illegal? Its already gotten out of hand i.e. drugs being illegal, money controls life and prisons are filling up with petty crimes, mostly because it pays rather well and looks statistically good to have high arrests, convictions and a thriving job industry to boot. They have to fill quotas, I hope people here realise this!
The idea that flag burning should be a crime is crazy. Should we start arresting people who drop litter? We could arrest anyone who shouts in public. We could arrest someone who stages an un-authorised protest outside a government building. Wait a sec... !!! this last one already happens here in the UK!!! Im not allowed to protest in front of the Scottish Parliament building without filling in a consent form!!!
Id rather be a traitor to the idea of a country than be a traitor to those I love. The earth beneath my feet and the people around me. This is what I love and I love what the earth and the people love, which is life.
Always look on the bright side of life *(whistling)*
Government, politics and people are what make a country The earth beneath your feet does not care about your flag.
No, but what the ideals on which the country was based upon.
This is what I believe most who disagree with burning the flag feel...
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They care about the land beneath their feet called USA which they use this flag to represent. Because of this love for the land and the association with the flag, they get angry that someone is "burning" their country and insulting those that love their country.
What does a flag do other than to represent a nation? Burning the flag is like burning what the country is about. A flag can be considered symbolic to what the nation is about.
I think that sums it up Im sure most would agree. This is also pretty much what a patriot is, someone who loves their country.
Patriotism has never been an ideal to me. Just because I was born here, doesn't mean I need to be loyal to the country I was born in. That's like being proud of something you were lucky enough to receive. If I win a the lottery, I shouldn't say it is a lot of hard work, but I finally did. It was complete luck.
Now its one thing to dislike someone burning a flag but another thing entirely to believe someone should be punished for it.
Burning the flag can be considered a treasonous act. Treason is a felony. If I blow up five hundred government buildings, then that can be considered treason. Treason is an act that betrays one's country. That's why burning the flag can be considered treason. It betrays one's country. It betrays the ideals of the country. It betrays the government of the country. It betrays the people of the country.
As has been said by others, if you make this illegal then what else should be illegal? Its already gotten out of hand i.e. drugs being illegal, money controls life and prisons are filling up with petty crimes, mostly because it pays rather well and looks statistically good to have high arrests, convictions and a thriving job industry to boot. They have to fill quotas, I hope people here realise this!
Burning the flag itself is not illegal, but treason is. You can be found innocent even though you clearly broke the law. You can burn the flag, be charged with treason, and be found innocent. It has happened before.
The idea that flag burning should be a crime is crazy. Should we start arresting people who drop litter? We could arrest anyone who shouts in public. We could arrest someone who stages an un-authorised protest outside a government building. Wait a sec... !!! this last one already happens here in the UK!!! Im not allowed to protest in front of the Scottish Parliament building without filling in a consent form!!!
Littering is illegal, but law enforcement just has more important things to do than to fine people who litter.
Id rather be a traitor to the idea of a country than be a traitor to those I love. The earth beneath my feet and the people around me. This is what I love and I love what the earth and the people love, which is life.
Okay. But just understand that burning a flag can be considered treason. Whether it ought not to be, it is not up to me. All I am saying, is that by definition of the law, treasonous acts include burning the flag. I don't know if burning the flag should be considered treason, but all I know is it is.
