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But wasn't every president chtristian?

Not really, for a start Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, he even created his own Bible which basically snipped out all the superstitious stuff.

There has even been rumors that Lincoln was an atheist.

This is all very interesting stuff! It seems you guys know a thing or two about this. Check out this website I found, It gives, what seems to be, a fairly accurate list of the religious affiliations of the founding fathers.

[url=http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html]

Now, that aside, let me say what I believe the founding fathers felt when putting together this nation. As someone mentioned earlier, we learned in elementary school that The United States were founded to break free from the "made up church" that the King of England had used to have a more sovereign rule of his nation. This is absolutely true. This Nation was not founded to be a Christian Nation per-say, but it was founded by men who all shared a similar belief system. They knew it was wrong to force all peoples of a nation to follow a predetermined religion, so they took ideals form their personal religions, the majority of those being of "Christian" affiliation, and put together, to the best of their ability, a Constitution that they felt would best serve this young nation for centuries to come. Some one also mention earlier on that the formation of this idea of "freedom of religion" idea was inherently non-Christian. Take no offense, but this is simply not true. When God created man kind, He purposed from the beginning that we were to fall in the Garden of Eden, and though this my seem cruel to a world of non-believers (aka non-Christians), His intent was insightfully opposite, in fact, far from cruelty. His desire was to have a people who would simply love Him because they wanted too, not because they had to. This principle directly translates into the founding fathers purpose of creating freedom of religions in America. This way, those who chose Christianity, or God, so to speak, would live that life to the full extent, rather than because they had to. Likewise, they did not want to hinder the other religions of the world from joining this new nations for , what I believe to be, one simple reason,

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28:19-20.

And what simpler way is there to reach out to others and to share the revelation of Jesus Christ, than to accept them with open arms into a nation that hey can call home and be free. So in conclusion, USA; founded by mostly Christian men with mostly Christian ideals but not so that all living here should be forced to Christian.

p.s. I am a Christian!

If America was a Christian nation why was stuff like in God we trust on the currency added in 1856?

I pledge allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one Nation under God

I pledge allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one Nation under God

Here's a little bit of interesting history related to the pledge of allegiance:

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, and read as follows:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Francis Bellamy was a socialist, and the cousin of Edward Bellamy, author of the utopian novel Looking Backward, a fact which seems to be lost on the conservatives who insist on mandatory patriotism, although not on more consistent libertarians who do note this fact and see it as evidence of a connection between patriotism and other functions of the state, such as taxation.
In 1923 the National Flag Conference changed the words "my Flag" to "the Flag of the United States" and the words "of America" were added a year later. On Jun 22, 1942 the United States Congress officially recognized the Pledge as a the national pledge of allegiance.
The words "under God" were added over 50 years after the original pledge was written (in June 14, 1954), through the lobbying efforts of the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal group.

its just that this country and christianity shares many of the same morals that state free opportunity and fairness among all peoples. as for the part of the pledge of allegiance that says "one nation under god" i feel that that is just saying how we have a superior being watching over us and in other words saying that we are special..if that makes sense.

its just that this country and christianity shares many of the same morals that state free opportunity and fairness among all peoples

You mean like stoning nonchristians? Killing people who merry while not a virgin? I don't see to many biblical laws here. Maybe which burning?

You mean like stoning nonchristians? Killing people who merry while not a virgin? I don't see to many biblical laws here. Maybe which burning?

...idk where you are from but that doesn't happen here.

I know. But if we where formed on biblical "Morality" we would. The bible says do do all those things.

In the middle eastern theocratic states.

it says to "turn the other cheek"