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nichodemus
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Ok heres the deal. There are so many mock/aspiring political parties on Armor Games. Iv'e seen Communist Party, Conservative Party etc But I've yet to see a Fascist one. ( If there is one, well my apologies).

Now moving on to why Im a supporter of Fascism. I don't mean the kind where anti-semitics go around killing innocent Jews. I'm talking Fascism Franco and Mussolini style. Intense nationalism, control of the people (after all, all governments do don't they?), and military might to show you mean business. All the pomp and grandeaur. Oh and censorship of unwanted political material. ( Trust me all forms of government do it in one way or another.) And best of all, Capitalism is accpeted and embraced.

Now I don't want to be labelled a Nazi lover or an intense anti-semitic. In fact I respect them, for all the suffering they have been true and their courage. I believe in equality for all races, except the Martians. Oh yeah and Adam Sandler always cracks me up. To clarify, Fascism does not equal to anti-semitism or hatred of any other race. Hitler hated non-Aryans but Hitler does not equal to Fascism. Mussolini was the founder of modern Fascism.

So if there is no mock up 'Fascist party' on AG I'll create one. If this post does not belong here, scrap it and I'll post it on the tavern.

Anyone offended by this material especially Germans, I do not want hatemail/insults/death threats etc. I am not aiming in creating a Fourth Reich or start a mass genocide.

One last thing. Fascism Rules!

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Graham
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read through the thread, facism includes discrimination based upon race

racism

if you don't want a racist party choose a different name

Zorae42
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Ooh, you know, Stalin (while he called his country Communist) was much more Fascist than Mussolini... Or at least more totalitarian.

Facist is anti-democratic, therefor evil.
Democracy was invented to oppose opression, which is evil, im evil, but i aint anti-democratic.


Are you kidding? Democracy if freaking evil. In its purest form, it's mob rule.

And at least with Franco and all them, you knew where you stood. Yeah they might do horrible things (butchery, terror, etc), but at least they were up front/honest about it... Rather than here where everyone is "shocked" at the awful things happening -_-
(was being semi-facetious)
nichodemus
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Fascism is not created on racial lines. And that is where Graham and all you people who use Fascism wrongly are wrong at.

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Mussolini opportunistically criticized Nazi racial policies and claimed that the concept of a biologically pure and superior race as believed by Adolf Hitler was flawed and impossible.

Mussolini even had Jewish people in his party. Any possible retort to that?

Following World War II, the terms fascism or neo-fascism have been associated with white supremacy, anti-Semitism and racism. However, fascist movements have existed in non-white societies and racially mixed societies such as Brazil, Japan and the former Zaire (under the rule of Mobutu Sese Seko).

Salgado ( of the Fascist Party in Brazil) adapted virtually all Fascist symbolism and salutes - although publicly rejecting racist ideologies.

Discrimination describes fascism as racism in some governments/ parties such as the Nazi and the Hungarian Fascist Party. So don't always think of Fascist as utter monsters, constantly thinking of murdering people other than what they deem as the master race.

Xavier1
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well my apologies


I don't mean the kind where anti-semitics go around killing innocent Jews.


Now I don't want to be labelled a Nazi lover or an intense anti-semitic. In fact I respect them, for all the suffering they have been true and their courage.


To clarify, Fascism does not equal to anti-semitism or hatred of any other race. Hitler hated non-Aryans but Hitler does not equal to Fascism.


Anyone offended by this material especially Germans, I do not want hatemail/insults/death threats etc. I am not aiming in creating a Fourth Reich or start a mass genocide.


First things first, too much apologising and pussy footing around for my liking, being a facist state there are no elections, so I am anouncing that you are not passionate or hard enough to be the leader of the facist party. I am now taking control.
Xavier1
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Fascism is not created on racial lines. And that is where Graham and all you people who use Fascism wrongly are wrong at.
Examples
Mussolini opportunistically criticized Nazi racial policies and claimed that the concept of a biologically pure and superior race as believed by Adolf Hitler was flawed and impossible.
Mussolini even had Jewish people in his party. Any possible retort to that?
Following World War II, the terms fascism or neo-fascism have been associated with white supremacy, anti-Semitism and racism. However, fascist movements have existed in non-white societies and racially mixed societies such as Brazil, Japan and the former Zaire (under the rule of Mobutu Sese Seko).
Salgado ( of the Fascist Party in Brazil) adapted virtually all Fascist symbolism and salutes - although publicly rejecting racist ideologies.
Discrimination describes fascism as racism in some governments/ parties such as the Nazi and the Hungarian Fascist Party. So don't always think of Fascist as utter monsters, constantly thinking of murdering people other than what they deem as the master race.


You know things, you're my second in command.
nichodemus
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No you do not argue with the dictator my poor misguided soul. And being a Fascist does not mean not apologising.

Xavier1
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He's too soft! This is a take over. Anyone that disagrees can thumb war me for it!

knight_34
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He's too soft! This is a take over. Anyone that disagrees can thumb war me for it!


There is no room for jokes.

Back on topic...

Fascism is aimed towards unity but is more economically relaxed than Communism. Fascism is not based on racism. I certainly believe that Western ideology has something to do with this. The assumption that Fascism is Hitler is wrong.
nichodemus
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Way to go Knight, on the spot! Correct! Hitler does not equal to fascism people. Open your eyes! See the lies your government has spread!

knight_34
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See the lies spread! For those people who are blind, Fascism was never Nazism. Nazism is actually National Socialism. National Socialism is Hitler's take on Socialism. Socialism and Fascism are different.

Communist
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Fascism is probably the best example of how people can be swayed by hate rather than virtue, the AFP will only fight for the glory of AFP but it will not fight for the glory of fascism, just fascism within the border.

I see fascism as an attempt to make the perfect citizens, the most loyal of soldiers, and the perfect dictator who can basically exert his power however he wishes. And since the people will do whatever their country "asks" of them, who will stop abuse? A revolution may sound more and more appealing.

Yes, I admit, communism is a fragile system. But so is democracy.

Stalin and Mao are the two main leaders that I always must discredit. They are not true communists in the fact that they don't take the people's lives seriously. A communist would care for each person if they will have any hope of making everyone equal in status. Lenin never lived to put his plans for the future into practice, if he had, who knows what the Soviet Union would have been like. But I must stress Stalin has more fascist qualities than he does communist ones.

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Fascism to me is simply a huge over controlling government, North Korea for example

nichodemus
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Yakooza North Korea is a Communist state! Communism in essence is good (utopia!) but totally impossible to achieve. Everyone wants more than someone else see? I will fight the cause of overthrowing the current definition of Fascism implanted in the mind's of unwitting people by democratic governments who are secretly oppressive.

nichodemus
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Due to people immediately jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers when they see the word 'Fascism', and Moegreche's suggestion, I will change the movements name.

Communist
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You skimped on my points.

Communism is meant for the community, not one person's selfish desires. One man has everything he needs, all he has to do is learn to live like that in harmony with his fellow comrades. And it has happened in history! Daoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism are all wonderful examples. Even Mao as a youngster said "Why are these people so content with being slaves?"

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