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redfan45

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Posted April 15, '12 6:43pm UTC

Chicago House beats them both.

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HahiHa

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Regent

Posted April 15, '12 7:15pm UTC

But even if that is that is the fact, rap is more inspirational than heavy metal.
Seriously what's inspiring in Heavy metal?

For example, Metallicas ballads are very inspirational. And Amon Amarth, which is a sort of heavy metal-ish Folk metal, has many good inspirational songs too (not ballads). However there are some heavy metal bands that aren't inspirational at all.
Not all rap artists or songs are inspirational either (some really suck), it depends. As well as it depends on the heavy metal band or song. So this doesn't really tell you anything.

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Schmiddy1234

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Nomad

Posted April 15, '12 7:16pm UTC

I just remembered but my favorite rap artist is Eminem of course ;D

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delossantosj

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Nomad

Posted April 15, '12 7:36pm UTC

I also think arguing which type of artistic expression is "best" just as pointless, but saying rap (by which you likely mean hip-hop music) is a subgenre of rock is factually incorrect.

funk and disco are also subgenres of rock. all three hip-hop, funk, disco, they all have no outside influences other than rock. thus they are subgenres of rock.

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ihsahn

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Posted April 16, '12 11:53pm UTC

funk and disco are also subgenres of rock. all three hip-hop, funk, disco, they all have no outside influences other than rock. thus they are subgenres of rock.

Soul, Rhythm and Blues, Gospel, Pop, latin music, doo-wop. All influences on Funk and/or Disco.

Rock isn't nearly as broad a term as you think it is.

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wolfboystev693

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Posted April 17, '12 7:47pm UTC

You agree with me that there's no point in judging entire genres of music, then turn around and say this.

What.
Yeah but I just cant stand people saying rock is better than rap.

[i]For example, Metallicas ballads are very inspirational. And Amon Amarth, which is a sort of heavy metal-ish Folk metal, has many good inspirational songs too (not ballads). However there are some heavy metal bands that aren't inspirational at all.

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

Its very weird having Rock Vs Rap cause they are so diff, Rap is a small Genre but Rock is very big u have, Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Classical rock and Etc, so its not really i can chose upon since i like both, but if they were levelled to each other i would chose ROCK.

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

You agree with me that there's no point in judging entire genres of music, then turn around and say this.\r\n\r\nWhat.[i]\r\nYeah but I just cant stand people saying rock is better than rap. :)\r\n\r\n[i]For example, Metallicas ballads are very inspirational. And Amon Amarth, which is a sort of heavy metal-ish Folk metal, has many good inspirational songs too (not ballads). However there are some heavy metal bands that aren't inspirational at all.\r\n[/i]\r\nOK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.\r\n\r\n[i]Its very weird having Rock Vs Rap cause they are so diff, Rap is a small Genre but Rock is very big u have, Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Classical rock and Etc, so its not really i can chose upon since i like both, but if they were levelled to each other i would chose ROCK.[/i]\r\n\r\nDude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.\r\nAlternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets\r\n\r\nChristian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.\r\n\r\nComedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al\r\n\r\nConscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common\r\n\r\nCountry-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots\r\n\r\nCrunk - Lil Jon \r\n\r\nCrunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead\r\n\r\nElectro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol \r\n\r\nFreestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.\r\n\r\nG-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort\r\n\r\nGangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP\r\n\r\nGrime - Rool Deep, M.I.A\r\n\r\nHardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap\r\n\r\nHip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah\r\n\r\nHouse music - Blaze, Blue Pearl\r\n\r\nHorrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.\r\n\r\nHyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40\r\n\r\nInstrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2\r\n\r\nJazz rap - The Native Tounges\r\n\r\nMafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z\r\n\r\nNerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris\r\n\r\nPolitical hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five\r\n\r\nPop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake\r\n\r\nRap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers\r\n\r\nSnap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L\r\n\r\nTurntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

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ihsahn

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Nomad

Posted April 18, '12 12:38am UTC

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

I won't be able to, because you've already made up your mind towards the genre.
It's as stupid to say that "all metal music isn't inspirational" as it is to say that "all yellow things are ugly". You make it a self-fulfilling standard by adhering to it.

Who even said that all music should try to be "inspirational", anyway? Some bands try to be aggressive, some bands try to be weird and original, some try to be groovy, some try to be epic.

But I still would try, if I knew what "inspirational" means to you.

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KhaoticSniper

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Nomad

Posted April 18, '12 3:20am UTC

[quote]Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets
ahhahaha Guess i do have no idea!

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Lendek

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Posted April 21, '12 6:02pm UTC

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

Now all rock genres:

2 Tone
Acid rock
Afro punk
Afro prog
Alternative country
Alternative dance
Alternative metal
Alternative rock
Anatolian rock
Art punk
Art rock
Avant-garde metal
Baroque pop
Baggy
Bandana Thrash
Beat
Bent edge
Big beat
Bisrock
Black/doom
Black metal
Blackened death metal
Blues-rock
Britpop
C86
Canterbury sound
Cello rock
Celtic punk
Celtic metal
Celtic rock
Chicano rock
Christcore
Christian metal
Christian punk
Christian rock
Coldwave
College rock
Comedy rock
Country rock
Cowpunk
Crossover thrash
Crunkcore
Crust punk
Crustgrind
Cybergrind
Dance-punk
Dance-rock
Dark cabaret
Darkwave
D-beat
Death 'n' roll
Deathcore
Death/doom
Deathgrind
Death metal
Death punk
Death rock
Digital hardcore
Djent
Doom metal
Dream pop
Drone metal
Dunedin sound
Electric folk
Electronic hardcore
Electronic rock
Electroclash
Electro punk
Emo
Emo violence
Epic doom
Ethereal Wave
Experimental rock
Extreme metal
Folk metal
Folk punk
Folk rock
Freakbeat
Funeral doom
Funk metal
Funk rock
Garage punk
Garage rock
Garage rock revival
Glam metal
Glam punk
Glam rock
Goregrind
Gothabilly
Gothic metal
Gothic rock
Grebo
Grimecore
Grindcore
Grindie
Groove metal
Group Sounds
Grunge
Grungecore
Gypsy punk
Hatecore
Hard rock
Hardcore punk
Heartland rock
Heavy metal
Horror punk
Indie pop
Indie rock
Indietronica
Indorock
Industrial black metal
Industrial death metal
Industrial metal
Industrial rock
Industrial thrash metal
Instrumental rock
Jam rock
Jangle pop
Jazz rock
Jersey Shore sound
Krautrock
Lo-fi
Madchester
Manguebeat
Manila Sound
Mathcore
Math rock
Medieval folk rock
Medieval metal
Melodic black metal
Melodic death metal
Melodic hardcore
Melodic metalcore
Metalcore
Mod revival
Nardcore
Nazi punk
Neue Deutsche HÃ¤rte
Neue Deutsche Welle
Neo-classical metal
Neoclassical dark wave
Neo-folk
Neo-prog
Neo-psychedelia
New prog
New rave
New wave
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
New Wave of New Wave
New Weird America
Nintendocore
Noisecore
Noisegrind
Noise pop
Noise rock
No wave
Nu gaze
Nu metal
Oi!
Ostrock
Pagan metal
Pagan rock
Paisley underground
Pinoy rock
Pop punk
Pop rock
Pornogrind
Post-Britpop
Post-grunge
Post-hardcore
Post-metal
Post-punk
Post-punk revival
Post-rock
Power pop
Power metal
Powerviolence
Progressive metal
Progressive rock
Protopunk
Psychedelic rock
Psychobilly
Punk blues
Punk jazz
Punk rock
Punkcore
Queercore
Raga rock
Rapcore
Rap metal
Rap rock
Reggae rock
Riot grrrl
Rock Against Communism
Rock and roll
Rockabilly
Rock in Opposition
Rock noir
Roots rock
Sadcore
Samba-rock
Screamo
Shoegazing
Shock rock
Ska-core
Ska punk
Skate punk
Skate rock
Slowcore
Sludge metal
Soft rock
Southern metal
Southern rock
Southern sludge
Space rock
Speed metal
Straight edge
Stoner doom
Stoner metal
Stoner rock
Stoner sludge
Street punk
Sufi rock
Sunshine pop
Surfabilly
Surf music
Swamp pop
Swedish death metal
Symphonic black metal
Symphonic gothic metal
Symphonic metal
Symphonic power metal
Symphonic rock
Synthpop
Taqwacore
Technical death metal
Third Wave Ska
Thrashabilly
Thrashcore
Thrash metal
Trashabilly
Trip rock
Tulsa Sound
Twee pop
Unblack metal
Viking metal
Viking rock
Visual kei
Youth Crew
War metal
Wizard rock
Zeuhl

rap still small :/

[quote]Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.\r\nAlternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets\r\n\r\nChristian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.\r\n\r\nComedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al\r\n\r\nConscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common\r\n\r\nCountry-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots\r\n\r\nCrunk - Lil Jon\r\n\r\nCrunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead\r\n\r\nElectro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol\r\n\r\nFreestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.\r\n\r\nG-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort\r\n\r\nGangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP\r\n\r\nGrime - Rool Deep, M.I.A\r\n\r\nHardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap\r\n\r\nHip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah\r\n\r\nHouse music - Blaze, Blue Pearl\r\n\r\nHorrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.\r\n\r\nHyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40\r\n\r\nInstrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2\r\n\r\nJazz rap - The Native Tounges\r\n\r\nMafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z\r\n\r\nNerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris\r\n\r\nPolitical hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five\r\n\r\nPop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake\r\n\r\nRap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers\r\n\r\nSnap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L\r\n\r\nTurntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\nNow all rock genres:     \r\n\r\n    2 Tone\r\n    Acid rock\r\n    Afro punk\r\n    Afro prog\r\n    Alternative country\r\n    Alternative dance\r\n    Alternative metal\r\n    Alternative rock\r\n    Anatolian rock\r\n    Art punk\r\n    Art rock\r\n    Avant-garde metal\r\n    Baroque pop\r\n    Baggy\r\n    Bandana Thrash\r\n    Beat\r\n    Bent edge\r\n    Big beat\r\n    Bisrock\r\n    Black/doom\r\n    Black metal\r\n    Blackened death metal\r\n    Blues-rock\r\n    Britpop\r\n    C86\r\n    Canterbury sound\r\n    Cello rock\r\n    Celtic punk\r\n    Celtic metal\r\n    Celtic rock\r\n    Chicano rock\r\n    Christcore\r\n    Christian metal\r\n    Christian punk\r\n    Christian rock\r\n    Coldwave\r\n    College rock\r\n    Comedy rock\r\n    Country rock\r\n    Cowpunk\r\n    Crossover thrash\r\n    Crunkcore\r\n    Crust punk\r\n    Crustgrind\r\n    Cybergrind\r\n    Dance-punk\r\n    Dance-rock\r\n    Dark cabaret\r\n    Darkwave\r\n    D-beat\r\n    Death 'n' roll\r\n    Deathcore\r\n    Death/doom\r\n    Deathgrind\r\n    Death metal\r\n    Death punk\r\n    Death rock\r\n    Digital hardcore\r\n    Djent\r\n    Doom metal\r\n    Dream pop\r\n    Drone metal\r\n    Dunedin sound\r\n    Electric folk\r\n    Electronic hardcore\r\n    Electronic rock\r\n    Electroclash\r\n    Electro punk\r\n    Emo\r\n    Emo violence\r\n    Epic doom\r\n    Ethereal Wave\r\n    Experimental rock\r\n    Extreme metal\r\n    Folk metal\r\n    Folk punk\r\n    Folk rock\r\n    Freakbeat\r\n    Funeral doom\r\n    Funk metal\r\n    Funk rock\r\n    Garage punk\r\n    Garage rock\r\n    Garage rock revival\r\n    Glam metal\r\n    Glam punk\r\n    Glam rock\r\n    Goregrind\r\n    Gothabilly\r\n    Gothic metal\r\n    Gothic rock\r\n    Grebo\r\n    Grimecore\r\n    Grindcore\r\n    Grindie\r\n    Groove metal\r\n    Group Sounds\r\n    Grunge\r\n    Grungecore\r\n    Gypsy punk\r\n    Hatecore\r\n    Hard rock\r\n    Hardcore punk\r\n    Heartland rock\r\n    Heavy metal\r\n    Horror punk\r\n    Indie pop\r\n    Indie rock\r\n    Indietronica\r\n    Indorock\r\n    Industrial black metal\r\n    Industrial death metal\r\n    Industrial metal\r\n    Industrial rock\r\n    Industrial thrash metal\r\n    Instrumental rock\r\n    Jam rock\r\n    Jangle pop\r\n    Jazz rock\r\n    Jersey Shore sound\r\n    Krautrock\r\n    Lo-fi\r\n    Madchester\r\n    Manguebeat\r\n    Manila Sound\r\n    Mathcore\r\n    Math rock\r\n    Medieval folk rock\r\n    Medieval metal\r\n    Melodic black metal\r\n    Melodic death metal\r\n    Melodic hardcore\r\n    Melodic metalcore\r\n    Metalcore\r\n    Mod revival\r\n    Nardcore\r\n    Nazi punk\r\n    Neue Deutsche HÃ¤rte\r\n    Neue Deutsche Welle\r\n    Neo-classical metal\r\n    Neoclassical dark wave\r\n    Neo-folk\r\n    Neo-prog\r\n    Neo-psychedelia\r\n    New prog\r\n    New rave\r\n    New wave\r\n    New Wave of British Heavy Metal\r\n    New Wave of New Wave\r\n    New Weird America\r\n    Nintendocore\r\n    Noisecore\r\n    Noisegrind\r\n    Noise pop\r\n    Noise rock\r\n    No wave\r\n    Nu gaze\r\n    Nu metal\r\n    Oi!\r\n    Ostrock\r\n    Pagan metal\r\n    Pagan rock\r\n    Paisley underground\r\n    Pinoy rock\r\n    Pop punk\r\n    Pop rock\r\n    Pornogrind\r\n    Post-Britpop\r\n    Post-grunge\r\n    Post-hardcore\r\n    Post-metal\r\n    Post-punk\r\n    Post-punk revival\r\n    Post-rock\r\n    Power pop\r\n    Power metal\r\n    Powerviolence\r\n    Progressive metal\r\n    Progressive rock\r\n    Protopunk\r\n    Psychedelic rock\r\n    Psychobilly\r\n    Punk blues\r\n    Punk jazz\r\n    Punk rock\r\n    Punkcore\r\n    Queercore\r\n    Raga rock\r\n    Rapcore\r\n    Rap metal\r\n    Rap rock\r\n    Reggae rock\r\n    Riot grrrl\r\n    Rock Against Communism\r\n    Rock and roll\r\n    Rockabilly\r\n    Rock in Opposition\r\n    Rock noir\r\n    Roots rock\r\n    Sadcore\r\n    Samba-rock\r\n    Screamo\r\n    Shoegazing\r\n    Shock rock\r\n    Ska-core\r\n    Ska punk\r\n    Skate punk\r\n    Skate rock\r\n    Slowcore\r\n    Sludge metal\r\n    Soft rock\r\n    Southern metal\r\n    Southern rock\r\n    Southern sludge\r\n    Space rock\r\n    Speed metal\r\n    Straight edge\r\n    Stoner doom\r\n    Stoner metal\r\n    Stoner rock\r\n    Stoner sludge\r\n    Street punk\r\n    Sufi rock\r\n    Sunshine pop\r\n    Surfabilly\r\n    Surf music\r\n    Swamp pop\r\n    Swedish death metal\r\n    Symphonic black metal\r\n    Symphonic gothic metal\r\n    Symphonic metal\r\n    Symphonic power metal\r\n    Symphonic rock\r\n    Synthpop\r\n    Taqwacore\r\n    Technical death metal\r\n    Third Wave Ska\r\n    Thrashabilly\r\n    Thrashcore\r\n    Thrash metal\r\n    Trashabilly\r\n    Trip rock\r\n    Tulsa Sound\r\n    Twee pop\r\n    Unblack metal\r\n    Viking metal\r\n    Viking rock\r\n    Visual kei\r\n    Youth Crew\r\n    War metal\r\n    Wizard rock\r\n    Zeuhl\r\n\r\nrap still small :/

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COD6

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Peasant

Posted April 30, '12 10:39pm UTC

rap is where its at

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Kaidou16

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Nomad

Posted May 3, '12 2:09pm UTC

Rap. Definitely rap. With rap, you can make the lyrics from your heart, and they can actually be heard, unlike in screamo. I have nothing against rock though. It's just screamo that I dislike. A bunch of weird people screaming about some toy they lost in first grade or something.

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thepyro222

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Peasant

Posted May 3, '12 4:28pm UTC

i love rock, i like linkon park the best

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

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AceofSky

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Blacksmith

Posted May 3, '12 4:55pm UTC

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

Arguably, that could be rock, like their first few songs, but I agree more rap.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll. Rock and Roll was created before rap...I think lol?

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ihsahn

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Nomad

Posted May 4, '12 12:03am UTC

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

Nah, they're rock alright, they're just terrible. I understand that you'd want to blame them on someone else.
While they do incorporate rap in their songs they're still very much within the "nu-metal" clichÃ©. Hence my saying that "Rap" isn't a genre but a skill; "hip hop" is the genre.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll.

Not even distantly. It comes from Soul, R&B, spoken word, Disco, gospel and such.

As for which came first... I'd guess Rock. I mean, it's been around since the 50's at least.

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NOFMAF

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Posted August 8, '12 12:53am UTC

Rap/Rock something like Limp Bizkit and Hollywood Undead.

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