my personal opinion is that the speedhack is on/near the border of cheating/not actually cheating-not that i'll ever use it; I can't download the engine. next picture: http://tinypic.com/r/2wn329t/3
wow just wow.... but yea you need to reduce number of mosnters quickly before you get to the last 20 waves, which youcan see wave 210 and youre on 200 thats impressive itsself, tell me can you spend all your mana? like are you gettng mroe mana than you can spend or are you actualy managing to make a grade 11 prismatic every 2 frames before you get another 200k mana
About the speed hack, i don't think this is really cheating. This should be a feature of the game. Because if you got a super machine you are disadvantaged compared to another one. However i don't need it, i've so much lag with my my old pentium i have to wait 4s between each frame (perhaps more).
1 _ All towers are grade 15 gems and traps grade 12. I begun with tower because i think this more effective for the beginning since all shout the first monster so you can reduce faster the number of monster. But now i will concentrate on traps and probably on tower at the end.
2 _ around wave 30 , i've angered a lot to have around 1000 monsters (2days ago) to have lag and build defense starting with traps. then I've super angered wave 42 to 10M hp. I've killed around 100 of them / 400 (the entire wave should give 30b).
3 _ I've angered wave 57 and 58 around 1M hp.
4 _ yes but other monsters can be ignored ... I have 100 waves to kill that ^^. So This is not that hard compared to waves above 200. In fact i think(hope) i can do the most until wave 74 (the next giant wave). And there i will decide how much i will anger it. In my previous game with the last version and half fire power i already have in this one, I killed 400 monsters with 40Mhp from wave 74 to 140.
5 _ hard to compare
6 _ I don't think i can go above 500b. After this one i only plan to anger wave 74. And the next waves won't give that much score since you can't anger that much. In fact 300b (with 3 waves) + the other waves i can't estimate is what i've planned.
7 _ hope my pc won't shut down (all automated updates disabled ... ready) ^^
AsSto, that's some nice angering over there... and you actually can anger it once more what's 48M HP monster, if it's trapped in a prismatic? But for that you need prismatic traps of high grade, I can only see R/O traps.
About speedhack - well, it's not "slowing Internet speed" but more like "slowing the central processor" which is actually normal, let's say he just ran his GC0 at Pentium-133, I do expect that PC to run GC0 at slow enough speed to do that amount of actions required to raise yourself that high.
anyway... wow!
Conner, this wave isn't stronger than wave 228, unless you speak of total amount of monsters' HP. Actually having more monsters in a wave is harder to defeat, since at the time you will wreck half of it you'll have ~200 monsters with high banishment costs, and not just 9 or so.
yea i mean the wave itsself has more armor number and hp than 228, and i think you messed up you said more mosntesr is actualy harder, well his wave 54 has 400 monstesr and wave 228 has 8/9 monstesr, that makes wave 54 harder since as you said "whats ___hp when its trapped in a prismatic trap? well since hes got 400 monstesr thats alot harder than wave 228 which oculd be held by 2 traps until tehy die
i stand by what i said thats it was harder than 228 and i think you accidently supported my point
anyways yea AsSto i do think you can break 1 tril simply because your multiplier will increase from 33 to like 100, and thers are many great waves before they become overwhelming, id say wave 126 is the last superagerable wave before it becomes too much.
Things begin to slow down a short time before wave 30. My way of doing is : _ first, make 3 grade 4 dual L/P/C with O (for the fire speed) in towers, the rest transmuted O in traps. _ Then i don't care too much about traps but super gem these 3 towers until max fire speed. _ At this point, i anger monster till 1K hp with grade 1 for lots of armor. The aim is not to make score but to make mana. _ With this mana, I begin to make traps with R/O grade 5/6 (and later R/O/Y) and upgrade a lot the mana pool. I use grade 2(later 3) gem to do that so bombing is fast. _ Once the entire path is done, i've begun to do grade 12 prismatic traps and angered monster about 100K hp. Once the entire path was done. I've got enough lag to begin to make grade 15 in towers -> wave 36
vesperbot, that's not R/O traps but prismatic R/O/Y traps ^^. I explain : something curious is that if you combine a prismatic gem into a trap, it will keep the "maxed" of the gem in the trap. So having grade 5/6 R/(Y/)O combined with a grade 12 prismatic will give you a grade 12 primatic with 5 target, a good fire speed (average 931) and between 6 and 7.5 mana per shot. Now i combine grade 15 into the grade 12 -> they keep their original stats whatever you combine with.
About the what's about 48 Mhp. This is because i think i can kill most of the wave until wave 74. And this wave i will be more ambitious if all things go well.
Lankhr, this is the first time i do that (and manage to discover how to do a grade 11 in 2 frames at the beginning of this game). I think the real problem is that you make most of the score with the first waves so that's a balance with building defenses and upgrade mana pool enough. I think things will be more clear once i'll finished this game and perhaps think about a way to do better with what i've done.
AsSto, you mean "triple" gems, as in ye olde 1.0 where R/Y O traps ruled? What grade are they? Are they fast enough to compare with R/O early on?
So you mean start with L/O, C/O and P/O gems that you can make directly at the start? Hm-m-m-m... will try.
I'd better not watch your screens... i have tried and got dizzy :P well this isn't a normal level and you are upwards to wave 58 already, but 58G score... and me having 18G off 40-wave normal and sporting... that's just discouraging.
Conner, well yes, seems that I have undermined my own point with the last phrase
