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firetail_madness
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This is a reminder to all the people who haven't checked yet, as well as a general discussion on the game.

Discuss.

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ConnerC
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ok few questions

1.) when you say "transmute the other gems O in traps" are you reffering to the grade 2s? thers shuld also be 1 grade 3 leftover whta did you do with that?

2.) you angered the wavse 1-14 to 1k hp?? i get to like 200 lol

3.) so you only start with 5 grade 2 orange traps and 1 grade 2 and 3 leftover?

4.) what point and grade did you add the yellow im a bit unsure about that part

5.) at what wave did you finish the path and where they all gradr 5/6 r/o

6.)did you finish a prismatic trap line by wave 36?!!

well i love the help i hope with a detailed enough breakdown i can attempt this myself as your pupil =]

AsSto
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veperbot, i've just put R/(Y/)/O grade 5/6 not maxed to prepare for the grade 12 prismatic combine. I've forgotten to tell that when i've made these grade 12 i bomb the 3 first line with R/Y/O -> the last gem combined is the more maxed with prismatic. But i think you're right , that should be better to start doing 10 maxed R/O traps placed every 2 traps and keep them until you get better mana farming then combine later with prismatic.

the Y is just to max the prismatic at a minimum of 931 FS. If not you end with 750 -> 1/5 fire power lost. That's not make to do more mana.

Yes that's L/O, C/O and P/O gems that you can make directly at the start.

About the score this is just because the wave 42's monsters begin to die quick so that makes the 30b score fast but things will slow down until wave 54 will start to die.

I've begun Monday in the afternoon. So about 3 days with 2 days with a lot of playing and yesterday not that much.

AsSto
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ConnerC

1 _ bomb ^^

2 _ not wave 1-14, but as soon as i get a grade 4 fire speed max (supergemmed with O obviously)

3 _ probably 2 grade 3 and a grade 2 in traps -> the cheapest at the beginning. I don't remember since i prefer to max the tower soon.

4 _ I just add the yellow at the end of the path (half way). Just to prepare the combine with prismatics and not to be efficient.

5 _ don't remember but at this point and with lots of monsters, things goes quicker and quicker.

6 _ I've finished it probably around wave 30-32, there's already a lots of grade 15 towers at wave 36.

7 _ You will soon find some other tips that will help me later -> that's the purpose of a forum, isn't it ? versperbot is my master ^^. I've done about all the 60 first level without notice angering

ConnerC
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so you dont anger the first waves heavily, you anger wave 1-14 how much? i usualy do 6-8 grade 1s till i get some decent gems and try to prepare for giants at wave 15 which is my fisrt real source of mana

so so you 3 traps to start and you max the towers to 279 before worrying about the gems?

then you...get your origonal 3 grade 4 to max firing speed using grade 2s? then begin to anger to 1k hp and beging the grade 5/6 path correct?

fractalman
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yuck...the computer shut itself down for updates.

and i was on wave 200+ too...


maybe i'll be able to try a second time...maybe.

AsSto
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That's bad luck fractalman. Really bad when this happen.

ConnerC, i don't do mathematical things. I adapt with the fire power i have and try some different things. I don't think this method is the best to start but this is how i like to do. I super gem the 3 dual grade 4 in towers with grade 1 gems O. Max fire speed is 222 for a level 4 in a tower. Then i do as you say.

ConnerC
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it may not be best start but its best ive ever seen, and r.i.p. fractals game, it was teh closest anyone here has came. oh btw AsSto are you gonna try for wave 228 after you get your 300b score and just stop superangering, like superanger up to wave 126 then mildly anger up to 153 then stop angering after 195 then let normal waves go till wave 228 and try to get waves 200-228 (around 500 monsters total) all trapped then just run comp overnight til they die since they cant move.

im gonna attempt the "AsSto start" it might take several trys for me, i wish i had seen a vid of it but eventualy i might just make it to wave 50 with 10b+ score instead of 700m even if u got 50b id still be greatful for the tips

oh and can you tell me how you mana pooled

example:

wave 5 reached 14k

wave 15 reached 54k

wave 28 reached 102k

wave 42 reached 300k

wave 54 reached 800k

something like that so i know what to go by

vesperbot
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fractalman, that's why I never set autorestart when updating, and try not to set up automatic install, just download. A real pity... basically a week's efforts are gone

AsSto
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The Gauss rule ... all the region get an electricity cut this night because of a fire ! Arrg.

The wave 42 was well angered and finished just before the start of wave 54

I will not be able to start again a huge game until 2-3 weeks.

vesperbot
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AsSto, do you have an UPS of any kind? If yes, you might put your computer into hibernation in case of any troubles, that will save your system's running state, including the game. If no... you might try to get one, then.

dammmmit, this is two people who play long out of three (if not out of two and I can't participate...)

ConnerC
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thats now 4 large games i know of who havent finished recently, maybe someone will

AsSto i tried your method and i got around 1.5b score at wave 40, then i shuold have 10b+ at wave 50 which is 20x better than my old scores

AsSto
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Unfortunately, i don't have 100$ to buy a decent UPS. There is also VMware solution which is even more safe than an UPS but not cheap enough ^^.

great ConnerC, i've the same score i guess in wave 40.

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To make a super gem create one grade3 red gem. Next, create a bunch one grade 1 gems. combine the grade 3 red gem with a bunch of orange and red grade one gems. Do this until your firing speed reaches 225. buid 5 of these and you will have no troubles. Dont forget transmute all the gems that arent red or orange.

fractalman
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yeah, i figured that out a long time ago...though as I (and many of the other people who have been posting lately) now start with 8 grade 3's, it is better to make a dual grade 4 gem, and supergem that-at least untill the mana farm is fully functional, and grade 6's can be readily produced.


I think i'll try the final level again; my goal is a grade 11-13 prismatic farm, but 20-50 of them supergemmed with grade 9's to 25000 max damage, and 1 or 2 to something larger, like 100,000 max damage. (trap damage=tower damage/5).

fractalman
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say, masterchief, were you thinking about gemcraft chapter 1? the map scrolls left to right in that one.

Thing is, in gemcraft chapter 0, there is a baseline fire-rate limit of 100 for low grade gems.

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