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Stormchaser
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.

one Nation under God


Should the Pledge of Allegiance be changed to support Atheist, who do not belief in God?
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paintballer222
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NO it shouldn't cause US was oringinaly and should stay that way. WHen everyone was turning away(before the great awakening) US was worse than it ever was God provides for our country He is the most important person EVER.

Blkasp
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You know Im starting to think after the US started rejecting God bad things started happening.

After they stopped praying in school's the Crime rate up when they grew up

(Sorry for double post but I had another error that sound WRONG from my point of view!)

paintballer222
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They have been praying in schools since the first school's. Schools were built to train children to become ministers.

Blkasp
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I heard that they stopped praying in schools and crime rate went up.

nichodemus
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Well my school song has the word God in it...but some of us are free-thinkers. It shouldn't be a problem, just a phrase. Not as if it will cause a civil war. Then again, it might.

paintballer222
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Oh, sorry Blkasp I thought you said when they started. IT probably did cause alopt of people arn't christain's anymore.

Blkasp
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Yeah I thought my correction post just looked like a glitched double post but yeah,

After they stopped praying in schools crime rate went up,

Deth666
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um should we take god out of literature and all songs and sayings i mean who cares how many times a day do you actually say it unless your in school suppose but i just don't feel its a big issue it would take an act of congress to change the pledge of allegiance and i think congress's time would be better spent don't you?

nichodemus
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i think congress's time would be better spent don't you?


Definitely, but as it is they dooooo spend their time well....
Xavier1
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Wait, are you guys forced to say the pledge of alliegance?

BigP08
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I don't see the big deal. If you don't believe in a god, it's just empty words. It means as much as we make it mean.

nichodemus
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Well then when reciting it, don't say the phrase referring to religion. Stay silent then continue.

FireflyIV
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I heard that they stopped praying in schools and crime rate went up.


Just because there is a correlation does not nescessarily mean that one variable caused the other. As there is no evidence that theocratic societies have much less crime than secular nations I would say drawing the conclusion that prayers in school lowers the crime rate is hogwash.
Moegreche
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This phrase "under god" wasn't in the pledge originally - it was added in 1954 during a time of Communist fears and religious pressure. Say the pledge with and without "under god" and notice how much smoother it sounds.
Personally, I omit the phrase when I say the pledge. This pledge is a promise and I take my promises very seriously. I certainly don't to pledge loyalty to anything that has anything to do with god.

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@Moe: Interesting. . .I didn't know that before.
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Now, I think that it is moot to say the 'under God' part. . .though it seems to me that it is in there as a sort of commemoration towards the religiousness of may if the founding fathers. And I say that part out of habit, though pledging loyalty to something that may or may not exist is a bit finicky.

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