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SirLegendary
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What do you think of Hitler as a person. Some would say he is awesome some like me would say he wasnt a very good person. And maybe what your saying is true.

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notataco
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hitler was anything but a great person. But people dont realize that his childhood invo9lved a drunk dad that beat him senseless. but anyways he was not a genius at all -_-
hitler was a pathetic failure and he wanted to blame people for his failures because he was to damn ignorant to think he couldnt succeed. So he blamed everything on the jews.
Hitler wasn't a genius.. he was a a man who couldn't believe he failed at life so he ruined everyone elses.

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He was a very smart person I believe. But he abused his immense intellect (mwahaha big words) in order to try and take over Europe if not the world.

Hitler wasn't a genius
He had to be in order to go down in history as the most powerful dictator who ever lived.
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Hitler was not totally demented, he was actually pretty smart, except towards the end when stress caused him to make lots of blunders.

Just because something tragic happens in your life, and you make a life-changing choice based on that, does not make you demented. But not like he was normal either.

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hitler was a pathetic failure and he wanted to blame people for his failures because he was to **** ignorant to think he couldnt succeed. So he blamed everything on the jews.


You know nothing of Hitler, read his book and you'll know his head, he's a great guy and did not cause war with Britain, he was retaking land from which I believe we caused from the first war, he got Germany back on their feet so fast that he's a hero, his phychological knowledge is amazing, and he hated the jews because of the 'big lie', in which suggests that they're half-race half-religion, and the fact that alot of Jews control what we watch on Youtube etc, I would say he was harsh but in the end he was right, more right than any of the countries that fought with or against him, a matter of fact he could have easily defeated britain and american if he didn't have 9/10 troops stationed for Russia, that's how powerful he was, you're getting propa-gandised simply because he lost and couldn't do anything about this, in the end that'd always happen, it's obvious, and you guys are stupid to think like this without any proper impartial research

very smart but very messed up, evil, etc.


Nope, if anything he only done collective punishment, like when u bomb cities you could be killing innocent orphans, but you have to as it's collective punishment - Same here, and actually the Holocaust isn't real, think about it, you really think 6 million jews died? It's a bunch of bull in my opinion...

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just one word:
No.

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@Gagamen i didnt answered you i just answered the question

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You know nothing of Hitler, read his book and you'll know his head,


His book is the ramblings of a race obsessed madman. Barely a page goes by without rabid anti-Semitism. It's probably the worst written book I have ever read.

he's a great guy and did not cause war with Britain, he was retaking land from which I believe we caused from the first war


His agressive nationalism was probably the primary cause of the war. He promised that Czechoslovakia was the last piece of territory he wanted. The British warned him that he invaded Poland we would declare war on Germany. He did invade Poland and Britain did declare war on Germany. I don't really see how it wasn't Hitler's fault.

As for your claim that the territory he was taking was rightly Germany's you need to do some geography revision. Neither Czecoslovakia or Poland were part of Germany pre the Treaty of Versialles.

he got Germany back on their feet so fast that he's a hero,


Only with massive help from US loans, and of course conscription and rearmament.

his phychological knowledge is amazing


Any evidence for this claim?

and he hated the jews because of the 'big lie', in which suggests that they're half-race half-religion, and the fact that alot of Jews control what we watch on Youtube etc, I would say he was harsh but in the end he was right, more right than any of the countries that fought with or against him, a matter of fact he could have easily defeated britain and american if he didn't have 9/10 troops stationed for Russia,


Are you suggesting that the Holocaust was right, or that there is a big Jewish conspiracy? If so, I pity and loathe you.

The misery and death he inflicted upon millions of people in the name of racial determinism easily makes him one of the most detestable people of all time.

You do realise that when you say he was right, you are subscribing to Nazi ideology? If you are ok with this, then it'd be nice to see you attempt to justify it.

2/3rds of German troops were stationed in Russia, not 90%. Either way, it doesn't justify what he was doing there. Just because a man is powerful doesn't mean that he is right.

without any proper impartial research


If you would kindly cite some respectable sources yourself...

Nope, if anything he only done collective punishment, like when u bomb cities you could be killing innocent orphans, but you have to as it's collective punishment - Same here, and actually the Holocaust isn't real, think about it, you really think 6 million jews died? It's a bunch of bull in my opinion...


Collective punishment? Seems like a BS term to justify the killing of innocent civilians.

You actuially think 6 million Jews were taken away by the elves during the night? If it weren't for the official German records, the SS gaurds who admitted the existence of gas chambers and concentration camps, the endless accounts by victims as well as the corpses found during the camps liberation and photographed, then I might be inclined to agree with you.
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His agressive nationalism was probably the primary cause of the war. He promised that Czechoslovakia was the last piece of territory he wanted. The British warned him that he invaded Poland we would declare war on Germany. He did invade Poland and Britain did declare war on Germany. I don't really see how it wasn't Hitler's fault.


Where did you hear this from mate?

You actuially think 6 million Jews were taken away by the elves during the night? If it weren't for the official German records, the SS gaurds who admitted the existence of gas chambers and concentration camps, the endless accounts by victims as well as the corpses found during the camps liberation and photographed, then I might be inclined to agree with you.


ok, Fair point but I can EASILY tackle this, you know a law in Germany today? You MUST believe the Holocaust happened, think about it, has any country done something like that for something you KNOW is true?

2/3rds of German troops were stationed in Russia, not 90%. Either way, it doesn't justify what he was doing there. Just because a man is powerful doesn't mean that he is right.


ok, I did not say anything about him being right because he was powerful, I was talking about perspectives, he got germany back on their feet so fast he's a hero, that's what the germans thought, he got them in a war but became a superpower, if he wasn't at war with Russia he could've creamed us, 2/3 or 9/10 stationed there, in the end Hitler was extremely intelligent and powerful, I think he's right, harsh, but right - Have you read the book?

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Where did you hear this from mate?


It's actually a pretty well documented historical fact.



Part of Hitler's speech 1 week before the invasion of Poland:

"The enemy did not expect my great determination. Our enemies are little worms, I saw them at Munich. [...] Now Poland is in the position I wanted. [...] I am only afraid that some bastard will present me with a mediation plan at the last moment."

[sarcasm]Sure sounds like someone who wants peace to me[/sarcasm].

ok, Fair point but I can EASILY tackle this, you know a law in Germany today? You MUST believe the Holocaust happened, think about it, has any country done something like that for something you KNOW is true?


That doesn't invalidate the mountains of evidence indicating the Holocaust did indeed happen. The laws are not in place to make sure everyone believes it, but to make sure racial hatred is not incited. Ask anyone who has since visited a concentration camp, as I have, you would realise that denying it is just a juvenile refusal to think critically.

he got them in a war but became a superpower


He got them into a war despite becoming a superpower, not because they were a superpower. Conflict is not a pre-requisite for power.

he got germany back on their feet so fast he's a hero,


That doesn't justify what he did in the years to come, nor does it make him particularly intyelligent. In fact, many of his proposed economic schemes were not put in place because they were so unworkable. It was his ministers who did most of the hard work, he was actually rather lazy.

if he wasn't at war with Russia he could've creamed us, 2/3 or 9/10 stationed there, in the end Hitler was extremely intelligent and powerful, I think he's right, harsh, but right -


That's testament to his unintelligence. The fact he was foolish enough the invade the USSR in the first place, let alone with barely 8 weeks of Summer. Anyone who thinks they can conquer a land as large as Russia in 8 weeks is a fool.

I think he's right, harsh, but right -


Right in what sense? Social Darwinism? Lebensraum? Volksgemeinschaft?

Have you read the book?


Sadly, yes.
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no he is an asshole

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IF we were to look at Hitler strictly from a nationalistic standpoint, he was a great person, he united Germany la de la de da. However if you were to add emotion, ethics, and humanism. You could say Hitler wasn't such a great person.

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He was a very smart and evil person.So many people were for hom although his plan was crazy and evil. He lied at millons of people and they did not notice it. Yea I think he was pretty smart.

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no he killed lots of people for no reason

Sebi
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He had reasons, but you wont understand them yet
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he had a stupid reason he killed millions of jews because he thought that they were at fault at the jobscarcity. That wasnt true he was a big lier.
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gagamen is actually right. many people in Germany did like Hitler (discluding the Jews ofcourse). they believed that he was the one who could regain the reputation of Germany which was stripped-off the country because of world war I. just think of it this way, if you say not even a single person like Hitler, then why wasn't he ousted? why did everyone stick with his plan?

you may say he was adored by many out of fear, but this isn't entirely true, he was adored by many because of his ultra-nationalism and his patriotic love towards his country. infact, in a documentation on Valkirie, when Germany heard the news of Hitler's assassination (which was indeed false), many fallen into grief... noone celebrated, noone smiled, noone laughed for joy...

it sounds rude to hear people saying "hitler is an evil man, how could you say blablablabla" when you are infact in an allied siding county, who probably took these stereotypical ideas, and have not even a single idea on hitler's history.... you guys might not even know why hitler killed the jews (hopefully you do)...

let me just say he's probably one of the greatest leader i know (it's nearly impossible to have ultimate control over a country that lost economy and reputation from world war I, and still have the loyalty towards your countrymen). but i couldn't say he's the greatest person i know..

it really depends on how you're connected with him, and since he's in the axis power, then i don't consider him great...more of infamous...

no hard feelings ok...

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