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Sebi
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Do you believe in god?! I dont believe in him!!! Please could you explain me how people could believe in god?!

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Mike412
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but a greater majority of those people are Muslims, they aren't getting that good of luck (if you count suicides and women enslaved then there life is good) I know it's hard not to take offensive but I really mean no offence

Christianity actually has a higher population of followers
"Bad luck" isn't counter-miracles or anything like that. The only reason why you see what you call miracles in a Christian population is because people look for them. Plus, who's keeping a count here? Is there some site that keeps track of how many "miracles" occur with Christian believers and with Muslims believes? Honestly, I can't see how you could ever validate a claim Christians have better luck, since its practiaclly impossible to compare billions of people's day-to-day events and luck

FireflyIV
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but a greater majority of those people are Muslims, they aren't getting that good of luck (if you count suicides and women enslaved then there life is good) I know it's hard not to take offensive but I really mean no offence


Islam is now the fastest growing faith in the world, but Christianity is still the largest single religion. As to the other part of your post; what the hell are you talking about?
Antherin
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for the sake of not spreading a flame war I'm going to not talk about the other part. but I deffinently elive in God (we got sidetracked to religions :P)

HiddenDistance
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with every virture there are two vices
Intelligence: thickheadedness, pride


And you're losing the argument, so of course with nothing else, you decide to sling mud. Way to take the high road. I might have had a shred of respect for you if you decided to concede.

Also:
Thickhead:
stupid person; blockhead.


Since we're the ones that are intelligent, we can't be both, so I guess thickheadedness must be the people on the *other* side of the debate.

Pride:
a becoming or dignified sense of what is due to oneself or one's position or character; self-respect; self-esteem.


Yeah. There's a terrible vice. Being accomplished intellectually & not blindly following some piece of paper written thousands of years ago. If only you knew how bad you sounded.
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Hey, this is a gentlemans debate, no need for name calling...

I your were talking to me, then I'm not really sure what u mean. I'm not calling anyone names

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Intelligence: thickheadedness, pride


Intelligence: Overeccentricity, being annoying.

Yeah, neither of these apply to Hidden as far as I know. . .unless he's a member of the Mensa Society. Then he at least as the first one down XD
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God's there. I know it. He's granted a few of my prayers before. I really don't think that's pure luck. And it's a religion, if you don't believe in it, well, that's fine with you ~ Don't judge others

samdawghomie
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I have to agree with Firetail. I know that god is there because he has granted some of my prayers and I don't think that it is pure luck. And if you don't beleive in God you don't but please don't go around calling people stupid for it. It is there religion and you will have to deal with it.

*stupid atheists*

Wait? Did I say that out loud?

Fyrefox
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We are all entitled to our own beliefs. I myself believe in God. No one is going to change my personal faith or way of life.

*stupid atheists*

Wait? Did I say that out loud?


Nope...you typed it.
theone99
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haha sorry but arent there many many topics about this already

samdawghomie
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Nope...you typed it.


Loool. I think that people are entitled to say what they want about people believing in other religions and are entitled to there own beleif but people got to keep a tone on what the say and keep it nice and clean.
Mike412
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He's granted a few of my prayers before. I really don't think that's pure luck.

Isn't it possible that the prayers are answered by you, not God? I don't mean you instantly make them happen, but by wanting something you put more effort into getting it. Say you want to win the lottery. You don't just pray, sit back and wait for God to give you the money. You might buy a few tickets every day. By buying the tickets, you increase you're chances, and eventually you may win. It doesn't have to be God doing something to make it happen

And if you don't beleive in God you don't but please don't go around calling people stupid for it. It is there religion and you will have to deal with it.

*stupid atheists*


Mmmm...you're hilarious. Great sense of humor there, going for the obnoxious contradicting idiot approach I see

LadyTurtleToes
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with every virture there are two vices
Intelligence: thickheadedness, pride


I'm sorry but does that mean you believe yourself unintelligent or do you believe you are guilty of those "vices" as well.

I know that god is there because he has granted some of my prayers and I don't think that it is pure luck. And if you don't beleive in God you don't but please don't go around calling people stupid for it. It is there religion and you will have to deal with it.
*stupid atheists*
Wait? Did I say that out loud?


I personally have no problem with people who believe in God and I have no problem with people who don't. As has been said several times people are entitled to their own beliefs. The reason I made the above quote is because I wanted to point out that it was extremely hypocritical. To ask people to not call those who believe in God stupid and then turn around and call atheists stupid makes you look like a jerk. Don't mistake me, I'm not saying that you are a jerk, just that you did a pretty good job of making yourself look like one.
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God's there. I know it. He's granted a few of my prayers before. I really don't think that's pure luck. And it's a religion, if you don't believe in it, well, that's fine with you ~ Don't judge others


That's just it. You don't *think* it's luck. And a 'few'? What about all of the prayers god doesn't answer? Study on the subject shows - prayer seems to have no effect at all (including any psychiatric benefit).

Of course, the counter argument is that God would never reveal themself in such a manner - but that would mean that he's letting people die, that he might otherwise save because of prayers because he doesn't want people to know that he exists. Absurd.

As for judging others... if I was near a child doing math problems, and the child answered 6 to the question 2+2=? , I would find myself inclined to point it out.

Also on the subject of judging others...

Religion seems to be fine with judging:
Whores, homosexuals, people of other religions, atheists, bisexuals, promiscuity, heavy drinkers, gambling, amassment of wealth & many others I can't come up with off the top of my head at 4:45 am.

Don't complain that &quotoor religion" is getting picked on by nasty atheists. If you can't take it, don't dish it.
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God's there. I know it. He's granted a few of my prayers before. I really don't think that's pure luck. And it's a religion, if you don't believe in it, well, that's fine with you ~ Don't judge others



If I pray to sun for appear every morning, and disappear every night, will it be that God listened me?

No.

There are just facts<--- that make things happen, or not to happen. You're lying yourself without knowing it, it's called autosuggestion.


What all this means? Imagine there happens something, you don't know why, what happening; it can be a good or bad thing.

If it's bad, you'll say God punished. If it's good, you'll say God is fair. If it's bad and you want become better, you'll pray to make him become better.

What will happen? If he dies in, operation, God will take him to heaven. No, the erroc will be of doctors. Same as, if doctors success, God saved him.

That doesn't make sense. You just try to make believe yourself facts of anything are between the name of someone you can't proof it exists, or proof it doesn't.

There are just FACTS in everything, that make things end in one or other way. Sure, we probably can't know which are all those facts in the thing that happened.

That's your autosuggestion, make you believe lots of facts are made by God, or just, make you believe God is protecting you, and give yourself an invisible help behind your mind, unconsciously making yourself more powerful in some situations, or just by taking ills of thinking God's covering you.



All I said has been tested in people who believed in God and which had ills. Scientists given them fake medicines, telling them they were real medicines. They started to pray and believe those mdicines were good, doing effect and real. They took ill off just by mind (remember, mind and body are one)


So, random facts are just random, not selected by God. God's in your mind and that's all. Not magically appearing and talking you.
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