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Sebi
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Do you believe in god?! I dont believe in him!!! Please could you explain me how people could believe in god?!

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Sebi
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If I pray to sun for appear every morning, and disappear every night, will it be that God listened me?
No.
There are just facts<--- that make things happen, or not to happen. You're lying yourself without knowing it, it's called autosuggestion.
What all this means? Imagine there happens something, you don't know why, what happening; it can be a good or bad thing.
If it's bad, you'll say God punished. If it's good, you'll say God is fair. If it's bad and you want become better, you'll pray to make him become better.
What will happen? If he dies in, operation, God will take him to heaven. No, the erroc will be of doctors. Same as, if doctors success, God saved him.
That doesn't make sense. You just try to make believe yourself facts of anything are between the name of someone you can't proof it exists, or proof it doesn't.
There are just FACTS in everything, that make things end in one or other way. Sure, we probably can't know which are all those facts in the thing that happened.
That's your autosuggestion, make you believe lots of facts are made by God, or just, make you believe God is protecting you, and give yourself an invisible help behind your mind, unconsciously making yourself more powerful in some situations, or just by taking ills of thinking God's covering you.
All I said has been tested in people who believed in God and which had ills. Scientists given them fake medicines, telling them they were real medicines. They started to pray and believe those mdicines were good, doing effect and real. They took ill off just by mind (remember, mind and body are one)
So, random facts are just random, not selected by God. God's in your mind and that's all. Not magically appearing and talking you.


Thats my meaning too!!!

How long did it take you to write this?
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In my own personal opinion... it is a matter of faith. I am a man of faith, and it has served me well so far. That is all I can really say. I don't think of anyone as bad for not believing, and I don't think it is right to. So yeah, please don't insult people for religious beliefs. It just gets in the way. I am a Catholic, and my best friend is Atheist! Learn a lesson from that. :P

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I am a Catholic, and my best friend is Atheist! Learn a lesson from that. :P

I don't belive in god, but all my friends do. I will respect everyone if it's about religion. But it's sometimes good to debat about it.

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I don't belive in god, but all my friends do. I will respect everyone if it's about religion. But it's sometimes good to debat about it.


I hope you didn't think I was trying to insult you or something. :O Sorry if it came out that way. I just said what I believe in. :P

And yes, it is always good to debate!
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I hope you didn't think I was trying to insult you or something. :O Sorry if it came out that way. I just said what I believe in. :P

oh no! I didn't had any intension to defend myself. U don' have to say sorry.

And yes, it is always good to debate!

Indeed

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oh no! I didn't had any intension to defend myself. U don' have to say sorry.


Ok, was just making sure lol.

Indeed


Omg, someone else besides me uses that word?! LE GASP!!! Lol
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Omg, someone else besides me uses that word?! LE GASP!!! Lol

what? indeed?

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Yes... indeed! lol

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Well people will need a figure or an object to have hope for. So they usually turn to God or some other godly figure. Personally I do not wish to flame and troll here.

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I can respect a person, but not the religion, and not the belief. I have friends who are religious, but we stay that way by not further discussing the topic.

Fortunately, I'm not here to make friends

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I'm just jumping in here, but did you ever consider that people simply believe in a God because they want to? I mean, the sensation that you are part of something larger, that there is a greater power out there is a very important piece to many people's lives, and not a piece they'd be likely to give up just from a lack of proof of that power's existence.

Although personally, I turn to philosophy as opposed to religion for an explanation of my place in life. It really doesn't matter, as long as people have a purpose they're contented.

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I'm just jumping in here, but did you ever consider that people simply believe in a God because they want to? I mean, the sensation that you are part of something larger, that there is a greater power out there is a very important piece to many people's lives, and not a piece they'd be likely to give up just from a lack of proof of that power's existence.


Absolutely, and I don't think I would have anything against that. Unfortunately, it's not just their own private illusion. Belief in God has a tendency to come along with religion; not always, but I've met very few people who don't subscribe to something while believing in a god. Relgion, and I'm not just christianity here, around the world seems to have a vendetta against gays, women, other races, equal rights; even certain language. That's not something I'm prepared to let go.
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Well, that's merely because such things were considered unacceptable at the time of the formation of the religion.

And as they say, old habits die hard. Religious practices and prejudices are, in my opinion, simply very old habits.

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I'm not entirely convinced though by your point - there are things in my life that I.. daresay I *wanted* to believe in, but could not - for a very short period of time, a god was one of those things.

Wanting it didn't change the fact that it wasn't possible for me though - I just couldn't lie to myself.

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Many people that believe in God and religion do because that was how they were brought up. For example, many of my childhood friends were raised in religious households, and now the majority of them are devout christians. I was not brought up by religious parents, the topic of religion was never impressed upon me, so I grew up without any bias towards a religious lifestyle.

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