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Sebi
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Do you believe in god?! I dont believe in him!!! Please could you explain me how people could believe in god?!

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thisisnotanalt
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*stupid atheists*


I know! I mean, stupid atheists with their logic and open-mindedness. Who needs that when you have an old book written by close-minded old men thousands of years ago?
Krizaz
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I know! I mean, stupid atheists with their logic and open-mindedness. Who needs that when you have an old book written by close-minded old men thousands of years ago?


Exactly man! Thats what we've all been trying to get to this whole time!
FireflyIV
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I know! I mean, stupid atheists with their logic and open-mindedness. Who needs that when you have an old book written by close-minded old men thousands of years ago?


Now all atheists are logical and open minded, and all theists are close minded and illogical? That's a pretty dubious assertion.
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I mean, stupid atheists with their logic and open-mindedness.

So theists are close-minded for assuming the existence in a god or gods, but atheists are open-minded for assuming the non-existence of a god or gods? I understand that you're making this in response to someone generalizing atheists, but you countered by generalizing theists.
In all honesty, agnostics would be the open-minded ones, while everyone else is close-minded by this standard. I believe there is more to defining an open mind than religious beliefs (or lack thereof).
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I know! I mean, stupid atheists with their logic and open-mindedness. Who needs that when you have an old book written by close-minded old men thousands of years ago?


I'm Christian and my grandparents always say eat what God brings you on the table, now that makes no sense, God didn't bring the food they did lol they work they get paid and you buy food

all they talk about is the bible but they don't realize they are little bit brain washed, come on how hard is it to figure out that there's no God if you open your mind and start thinking on your own

obviously I'm not gonna tell them that they are slaves to a bible written by humans, so I just laugh at them and live my life without praying to the invisible ''God'' that doesn't exist
Krizaz
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Dude, it was called sarcasm, idiots today can't take a sarcastic joke. It's logical to say that believers are closed-minded, since they've basically devoted themselves to god.

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Personally i don't care whether there is a god or not, let alone which would be the right god. All i know is that ill live my life the best i can and say screw it to which religion i really belong to. If when i die i come to face some higher being, ill simply explain the fact that there is so many different contradictory religions out there and that its hard to choose which to follow. Ancient texts are changed over time and religions are often simply made up. The united states is pretty much a fast food court when it comes to religion, catered to certain groups of people. I have never had true good proof for a religion so unless i find definite proof, screw the choice.

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It's logical to say that believers are closed-minded, since they've basically devoted themselves to god.


I haven't, and I believe in god. In fact, I personally hate god, yet I believe in him. But I guess I devoted myself to him.
DirtyCodingHabitz
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Personally i don't care whether there is a god or not, let alone which would be the right god. All i know is that ill live my life the best i can and say screw it to which religion i really belong to. If when i die i come to face some higher being, ill simply explain the fact that there is so many different contradictory religions out there and that its hard to choose which to follow. Ancient texts are changed over time and religions are often simply made up. The united states is pretty much a fast food court when it comes to religion, catered to certain groups of people. I have never had true good proof for a religion so unless i find definite proof, screw the choice.


agreed 120% with you and I feel the same way
Krizaz
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I haven't, and I believe in god. In fact, I personally hate god, yet I believe in him. But I guess I devoted myself to him


That doesnt make sense, I say what you just said in simple steps, you will find a flaw in this resoning. This is in order of what you said.

1. I Haven't devoted myself to God
2. I believe in God
3. I hate God
4. I believe in God (again)
5. I Devoted myself to God

Something wrong with 1 an 5, read the post to see what I mean (The one that I quoted)
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agnostics would be the open-minded ones, while everyone else is close-minded by this standard.


Not a standard I would hold. I'm open mnded; I recognize the possibility, but find it highly improbable due to the lack of evidence. As for the statement regarding:

Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.


Not necessarily indeed - but there's a flaw with your other statement regarding life in other galaxies (or even more life in this one) we have an example to compare to. I mean, there's life on this planet. Is it such a stretch to consider a possibility of life elsewhere? Not so much. True, we don't have evidence for this other life, but it is very plausible. It makes sense. An all-powerful god however, we have no plausible evidence for at all. There isn't any evidence either way on the tooth fairy either; It's not a good argument for religion, much less sticking to the middle ground.
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That doesnt make sense, I say what you just said in simple steps, you will find a flaw in this resoning. This is in order of what you said.

1. I Haven't devoted myself to God
2. I believe in God
3. I hate God
4. I believe in God (again)
5. I Devoted myself to God


Hmm, you seem to have misunderstood what I said. The #5 wasn't serious, it was sarcasm. Sarcasm doesn't really get across the internet very well does it? Anyway, I don't believe in god as a literal sense. I mean I believe (which makes me a believer) that a higher deity is up there. I don't actually believe in him and that he grants miracles or any of that BS. I believe he's there. That's it.
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So theists are close-minded for assuming the existence in a god or gods, but atheists are open-minded for assuming the non-existence of a god or gods? I understand that you're making this in response to someone generalizing atheists, but you countered by generalizing theists.


I never said or implied anything of the sort. I wasn't being serious whatsoever >.>

Now all atheists are logical and open minded, and all theists are close minded and illogical? That's a pretty dubious assertion.


Read the above.
Krizaz
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Hmm, you seem to have misunderstood what I said. The #5 wasn't serious, it was sarcasm. Sarcasm doesn't really get across the internet very well does it? Anyway, I don't believe in god as a literal sense. I mean I believe (which makes me a believer) that a higher deity is up there. I don't actually believe in him and that he grants miracles or any of that BS. I believe he's there. That's it.


Dude, you said 'I guess' after making a bunch of statements that refer to God, and also responded to my post, which isn't sarcastic what-so-ever, maybe in your mind, but maybe you just don't think things through before you post.
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This is a good explanation, but I don't understand what the stab at Catholicism is. I'm Catholic, and I give a crap about the rules. I think many religious followers might not care about the rules, not just Catholics. There are those that care and those that don't.


I'm catholic too. I was just saying you'll find that most of us do not really care about the rules of the church. Only the serious ones, like it's a sin to cheat on your spouse or it's a sin to murder someone. If anyone actually thinks that any of us believe every word the bible says then you've got another thing coming. My Dad (before he met my Mom and quit) was studying to be a priest, and he told me that the church would sometimes decide what to put in the bible. He said that even though we're catholics that we shouldn't believe everything that the bible says. You do realize that some of the more harsh laws like, "you cannot wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" or "a woman must not wear menâs clothing, nor a man wear womenâs clothing", are from the Old Testament. Most laws (except for the Ten Commandments, they were for both religions) that were made in the Old Testament were for Jewish people only. It would make sense because the first five books of the OT are basically the Torah, although there is huge difference between the two, that being that us Christians misinterpreted the OT.
Although I have been going to Catholic school my entire life, even in High School (although in High School they teach more about the history of the church, not just the bible), there are some things of my faith I simply refuse to believe, like that the Earth was created in 7 days. That's just ridiculous.

It's just like if you claim you can make a spoon levitate with the power of your mind. I can't *disprove* that you can do it, but making the claim that spoon levitation is something a human can't do is not a stretch by any means.


It's all about faith, man. I mean, if a miraculous events happen that nobody can explain, even a skeptical or scientist I believe that to be the work of God. If there is no proof otherwise, simply because you believe that God didn't do it, doesn't mean that he didn't.
If I was ever considering to becoming an Atheist, I would probably end up not becoming one. Why? I hate how Atheists believe that after you die, you're just a dead body, it's just nothingness. I'd like to believe that there is something better waiting for you on the other side.

(if this really is the case, why do we need to bother praying anyway? He already knows what you want)


Even though we (Catholics) believe that God is all powerful, God cannot mess with free will. Therefore, he will never really know what we want in life. Unless, we pray of course. Which leads me to this next statement: People who blame God for everything that is bad are dumbasses. Because we are given free-will, how the hell can he prevent us from doing any wrong? Why would there be laws laid down in the bible if he could just stop us from doing any wrong? People who say this are true idiots.
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