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Sebi
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Do you believe in god?! I dont believe in him!!! Please could you explain me how people could believe in god?!

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LadyTurtleToes
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Because there's no god to hear prayers?

Why was that a question?
HiddenDistance
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Why was that a question?


Ehh... I type the way I think of myself talking =\\ My internal monologue's pitch went up at the end, I just added it instinctively. Also it could be because it's something I've said before, on this and other threads but they always seem to ignore it; the question mark could also indicate that I'm unsure that they understand. Maybe the sentence has a cloaking device rendering it invisible to theists.
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keeton52
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god was made by the human mind and is a symbol of hope, you take that away and bad things will happen

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Well, i know i shouldnt start something, but i couldnt resist looking at this topic again. This time, I just wanted to post quotes of the most recognized people about god:

"I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued."
-Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical (converter)

âWe need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness. God is the friend of silence. See how nature - trees, flowers, grass- grows in silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence... We need silence to be able to touch souls.â

-Mother Teresa

âI am convinced that He (God) does not play dice.â
âI want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.â
-Albert Einstein

âGod loved the birds and invented trees. Man loved the birds and invented cages.â

-Jacques Deval

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
-Galileo Galilei

"If there were no God, it would have been necessary to invent him."

-Voltaire

"[God] is the kind Creator who brought forth nature out of nothing."

-Johannes Kepler

" This thing [a scale model of our solar system] is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you, as an atheist, profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such an incongruous conclusion?"

-Sir Isac Newton

"I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued."
-C.S. Lewis

"Education without religion is in danger of substituting wild theories for the simple commonsense rules of Christianity."

-Samuel Morse

"Without Him, I understand nothing; without Him, all is darknessâ¦Every period has its manias.
I regard Atheism as a mania. It is the malady of the age."

- Jean-Henri Fabre

These are my favorite quotes from people.
I just wanted to share them with all of you people. There are thousands of more and if you want u could either search em up or ask me for some more. Again all i wanted to do was to post my favorite quotes about god.

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god was made by the human mind and is a symbol of hope, you take that away and bad things will happen

Bad things happen whether or not you want. Having a "symbol of hope" embedded in your head won't change physical outcomes; only your perception of them.
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i beleive in god because we go to church on saturday. there are lots of services and a praying session.

80% of the time, my prayer works.

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I Belive In Him Then How Do You Think The World Started And Why ARe We Here?And How Will It End?Spending Some Time Praying Could Help You Maybe The God Exist After All Just Spend Some Time Not All Your Life

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80% of the time, my prayer works.


Prove it.

I Belive In Him Then How Do You Think The World Started And Why ARe We Here?And How Will It End?Spending Some Time Praying Could Help You Maybe The God Exist After All Just Spend Some Time Not All Your Life


Okay. Let's say... for the sake of pure argument, that I, and no scientist has any idea with regards to the origin of life on the planet or the universe. Does that make your explanation that 'god' did it automatically true? Beyond that, what basis of *proof* do you have to suggest that?

Hey Kiel, if you think Einstein was religious about a god and not 'the cosmos', you're wrong. As for quoting people.. anyone can dig up quotes for their side of the argument from learned & intelligent people:

Christopher Hitchens:
Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody- not even the mighty Democritus who concluded that all matter was made from atoms- had the smallest idea of what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge. Today the least educated of my children knows much more about the natural order than any of the founders of religion.


Albert Einstein - replying to a catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity:
To take those fools in clerical garb seriously is to show them too much honor.


Dawkins on ID:
"Any entity capable of intelligently designing something as improbable as Dutchman's Pipe (or a universe) would have to be even more improbable than a Dutchman's Pipe. Far from terminating the vicious regress, God aggravates it with a vengeance."


Neil DeGrasse Tyson:
âIntelligent design is a philosophy of ignorance. Science is a philosophy of discovery.â



Quoting people still isn't proof, it just means that there are like minded individuals on your side. You'll need to do better.
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80% of the time, I pray for a big mac with cheese... and I get it from the golden arches.

kielzanie
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Quoting people still isn't proof, it just means that there are like minded individuals on your side. You'll need to do better.

I wasnt tryn to prove anything. I just wanted to post my favorite quotes about god. Thats all.

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If you think about it, its impossible for god to exist

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If you think about it, its impossible for god to exist


Well say that to most people, what would you think, people we're from a comet with goo that made us? it's hard to know, you have to loosse you're life to find out. But don't kill you're self now...
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If you think about it, its impossible for god to exist

Um, why did you say this? Everybody has a different way of thinking, so if you think about it, it's impossible for God to exist. But if I think about it, it's possible for God to exist. Back up your statements or you haven't really proven anything to anybody.
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it's hard to know, you have to loosse you're life to find out. But don't kill you're self now...

Ha, thats the only way some people are gonna really know, guess we are gonna have to wait.....

Hey Kiel, if you think Einstein was religious about a god and not 'the cosmos', you're wrong.

Dam, i couldnt resist this comment.

Well, not necessarily. But it is a fact that Einstein stated that:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

This means he doesnt believe in a personal god. He did not believe that there was a god that didnt interfere in real life.

But as he states later, he says:

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." (which i had stated)

And also says:

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God."

"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of nature--a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort."

When asked about if he was religious:

"Yes, you could call it that. Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible laws and connections, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything we can comprehend is my religion."

And the existence of Jesus:

"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

If science leads to religion:

"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of nature--a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort."

And lastly:
"The fanatical atheists...are creatures who cannot hear the music of the spheres. I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. What separates me from most so-called atheists is a feeling of utter humility toward the unattainable secrets of the harmony of the cosmos."

Well, sorry for the long post. But, if you were refurring that he didnt believe that there is a god, that is false. He did infact believe that there was a god who created the world and universe and beyond. As for religion, idk about that. He didnt believe in any religion, so i guess he didnt, although he didnt deny the fact that Christ did exist. He didnt want to believe in that there was a god that inteferes with life.

Einstein was an interesting man, but i guess we can conclude that einstein believed in a god, but not religion.

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