I my self am a proud veg and im a guy i dont see any thing wrong with that, however my peers constantly put me down for it. I question others about it and some say that animals are kiled to keep the population under control, then shouldnt we do that to humans? are there any other vegetarians on armor? if you are a caravor responding to this please try not to be insultive i get enough from my freinds and family
Now, if you've ever seen a goat do that please inform me.
to be honest, If I was stranded, I would work my best and find a river, go downstream killing and hopefully surviving as I go on. xP [Civilization is just so close to you these days]
Regardless of what people say about how vegetarians are "evil" because they will lead to over population of animals that we normally kill, think of it this way: we, as humans are able to survive with out eating any meat. Our technology in food process we are able to eat and get all the vitamins and minerals we need to live through vegetables and non-animal pills. It is a fact. So all the time and money spent on animal raising, slaughtering and packaging could be spent on other things. I do eat meat, but I totally understand why vegetarians do what they do and I'll support it!
Do you think the animals that have been raised for slaughter were to be set free could survive in the "wild"
Unlikely, but then so is the scenario that we'd call for some kind of moratorium on the entire meat industry.
Even if the human world were to progress towards a more "vegetarian" state, it would be a hard-fought, much slower rollback that wouldn't exactly give rise to much releasing meat-animals from captivity.
Like what? All PETA has done is discredit any kind of movement to "save the animals" with the kind of stunts that they pull. I say again: PETA and Al-Queda are both the same. They both believe that what they believe is the only way and will do whatever it takes to try and force their beliefs on other people. In fact, the two are almost identical in practice. Their motives are different, but their actions are not.
Ingrid Newkirk is firm in her support of direct action. Both she and PETA have been criticized for providing financial support to Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activists when they were faced with legal action against them. The Observer noted what it calls a "network of relationships between seemly unconnected animal rights groups on both sides of the Atlantic," Mkay. Rod Coronado, a former ALF activist, received $64,000 from the group and two months later another $38,240 as a loan which has never been paid back to fund his legal defense when he was convicted of having set fire to a Michigan State University research lab in 1992. PETA claimed a tax refund from the Internal Revenue Service for the donation after the arson took place. This one's a pdf, better have adobe ready.
And this article, right here:
A top adviser to Britain's two most powerful animal rights protest groups caused outrage last night by claiming that the assassination of scientists working in biomedical research would save millions of animals' lives.
To the fury of groups working with animals, Jerry Vlasak, a trauma surgeon and prominent figure in the anti-vivisection movement, told The Observer: 'I think violence is part of the struggle against oppression. If something bad happens to these people [animal researchers], it will discourage others. It is inevitable that violence will be used in the struggle and that it will be effective.'
Vlasak, who likens animal experimentation to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews, said he stood by his claim that: 'I don't think you'd have to kill too many [researchers]. I think for five lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives.
Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (Shac), which campaigns for the closure of Huntingdon Life Sciences, has close links with Vlasak. He has also advised Speak, the organisation that last week forced out the contractor building an £18 million primate research laboratory in Oxford.
David Martosko, research director at the Centre for Consumer Freedom, which monitors activist groups on behalf of business interests, responded by saying Vlasak was 'one of the most dangerous animal rights zealots on the planet'. He added: 'He's not making bombs, but he is making bombers.'
Vlasak will address an animal rights conference organised by Shac and Speak in September. Legal experts warned that, if he uses his speech to promote violence, he could be charged with incitement.
Vlasak has made a series of incendiary claims that will alarm moderates in the animal rights movement and reinforce claims that Shac and Speak are fronts for extremists.
Three months ago, he told a US television audience that violence was a 'morally justifiable solution'. Earlier this month, he gave a speech in Virginia in which he said: 'It won't ruin our movement if someone gets killed in an animal rights action. It's going to happen sooner or later.'
Vlasak meets Shac leaders regularly. He has played a big part in writing speeches, directing its strategy and advancing scientific arguments against animal experimentation. He also worked with Speak in its successful effort to prevent the building of a primate research centre in Cambridge and says he plans to work with the group on its Oxford campaign.
Other animal rights groups have distanced themselves from him. Until recently he was a member of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a group funded by the powerful lobbying group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta) and endorsed by Shac.
But a PCRM spokeswoman told The Observer: 'He is not a member of the organisation.' Vlasak confirmed he was not working with the PCRM 'at the moment'.
While acknowledging that his views might alienate some people, Vlasak, who claims animal experimentation 'wastes billions of pounds a year', said more and more people in the animal rights movement were drawn to violent action. 'The grass roots are tired of writing letters. The polite approach has not worked,' he said.
Patricia Hewitt, the Trade and Industry Secretary, last night promised that the law would be strengthened to tackle the growing number of incidents. On Friday Home Office Minister Caroline Flint will unveil measures designed to clamp down on protesters. It is believed ministers are frustrated that the CPS and the police have not taken a sufficiently robust stance against the movement.
One of the City's largest institutions, the National Association of Pension Funds, is about to offer a £25m reward to help catch protesters who threaten businesses associated with animal research firms.
Yesterday, 300 Speak activists celebrated their coup in forcing building firm Montpellier to pull out of the new Oxford primate research centre with a march through the city centre. Protester Robert Cogswell attacked the NAPF's offer of a reward. 'It should stop wasting money and start looking at why people are taking illegal action,' he said.
Yesterday Natasha Avery, a spokeswoman for Shac, declined to comment on its links with Vlasak. Speak did not return calls. The original article Examples and sources. Your move.
Kfc does kills chickens and supports it but it is b.s. that they go and buy tyson. Why don't you boycot meat? And Mega i dont think many here have to care for what you have to say so once again please leave. I think that peta is a good thing and those people can support what they have done. Vegetairan terrism is on the rise http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Ecoterrorism.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=eco http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/2007/11/29/chef-calls-vegetarians-terrorists/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-terrorism Just a few links of Vegetarian terrorism. The veggieswill win i am sorry. This one is about Veggies http://www.vegbang.com/
