"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
This is repeated every morning by students all over the world, and is recited at many events. However, there's one part that many people have a problem with. "One nation, under God". Why should Americans be forced to acknowledge the existence of God to pledge their allegiance to their country?
So my question to you: Should the "under God" be removed from the pledge of allegiance?
My question is: Why are you offended? You don't have to say anything. By the way, why should we take it out when most Americans believe in god? So we can make a bunch of complaining atheists happy? Also, if we do that, expect there to be more than a few minor successionist civil wars to break out.
I think the world could be better if we believe in science, instead of believing 1 thing blindly...but that only my opinion.
I am a Christian, and an American, but I do not believe our nation is truly under God. Our government does not recognize God, we do not respect God the way that we live, we do nothing to point to God as a nation. We are one nation, the nation with the Bible so wide spred that everyone can get one for free if they wanted to! But we take it for granite we do not study it like we should we do nothing to claim the name of a Christian nation. We are one nation and we are under God in the sense He rules over everything. But we do not respect or recognize God as a nation. If they take it out of the pledge they will only be telling the truth.
In The USA, Religious groups that believe in God vastly outnumber non believers. So my answer to your question, again. No.
So, does that mean all internal policy should bow to religion since they're in the majority? One of the principles that the U.S.A. was founded on was freedom from religious persecution; I would argue that the change to the pledge of allegiance makes it unconstitutional.
One of the principles that the U.S.A. was founded on was freedom from religious persecution; I would argue that the change to the pledge of allegiance makes it unconstitutional.
to change the pledge you would have to make a vote on this. and since the religous people are a majority(i cannot prove it, but it has been written here so i take it as granted), such a vote would not pass.
but i agree, that noone should be forced to say the pledge of allegiance. but if you are really offended by the god part, just leave it out. i mean you can always choose, whether you want to include god in a pledge or not.
but if you are really offended by the god part, just leave it out.
Lol, there were a few people in my first period class who would just walk up to the flag every day for the pledge and stare straight at it. They would shout out "Under God," which was the only part of the pledge that they would actually say, and sit down shortly afterwards.
to change the pledge you would have to make a vote on this. and since the religous people are a majority(i cannot prove it, but it has been written here so i take it as granted), such a vote would not pass.
Not necessarily. You could make it a court case & take it to the supreme court and have them rule on it - the only vote required would be amongst the supreme court judges, who are all pretty well sticklers for constitutional law. I feel that they would rule in favor of removing the line.
I feel that they would rule in favor of removing the line.
then someone would have to try it. but it is either not as simple as you claim, or not enough people care about it, because otherwise someone would have tried to change it, and succeed
Getting a court case to the Supreme Court level is not easy at all, and even if you make it all the way up the chain, the Justices get to choose which cases to take and which to deny.
Actually, I'm never gonna stand up, maybe on the first day of High school, for the pledge. I'll probably be mocked at shunned at for a few weeks, but who cares, it's pointless anyways. While we're at it, lets say the pledge of every country in the U.N., we want to respect them don't we? Put on the anthem for every country involved in the U.N. and take up half are day to say the same thing we've been saying for 9-10 years of our life.
Getting a court case to the Supreme Court level is not easy at all, and even if you make it all the way up the chain, the Justices get to choose which cases to take and which to deny.
well if the topic would really be an interest to society i suppose and hope, that the supreme court would take the case. but i am not an expert on us law.
I meant I'm never gonna stand up for the pledge after middle school, I tried it in 6th and got yelled at by my teacher an parents, I don't agree with either on a lot of subjects. Which sometimes make's me look like a fool, but at that point I don't care.
then someone would have to try it. but it is either not as simple as you claim, or not enough people care about it, because otherwise someone would have tried to change it, and succeed
As Zootsuit wrote, it's not easy getting a case up to that level.
As for not enough people caring about it? That's certainly not it - and not that the decision would be unpopular in the majority either. Take this example in Alabama where the ten commandments were removed from the Alabama state judicial building - the story postulates that the decision was only popular in 1 out of 5 U.S. citizens.
As for not enough people caring about it? That's certainly not it - and not that the decision would be unpopular in the majority either. Take this example in Alabama where the ten commandments were removed from the Alabama state judicial building - the story postulates that the decision was only popular in 1 out of 5 U.S. citizens.
