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Dragon1Reborn
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obama wants to use our tax money to pay for abortions with the new health care bill, now for some people that would be ok with them. but for me i am Pro-life and i want to choise how my money is spent. what are your ideas?

p.s. this is not a forum to talk if abortion is bad or good just to see if it should be in the new health care

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Veobahamut
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You can kill brain cells

dieath
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i want too say 1 thing before my opinion, this should not be decided at a federal level, every state should have diferent laws about this.

im pro choice since i think she has the right too choose before it is actually born, and since a fetus dosent have the capacity for long term memories or memories of any kind yet, so you think it would care?

Graham
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i think she has the right too choose before it is actually born, and since a fetus dosent have the capacity for long term memories or memories of any kind yet, so you think it would care?


i meant the memories for the one doing it -_-

when do you call something human? when the sperm reaches the egg or when something is thrust outside? the nature of living things is to try by all means to survive. try killing something and it will squirm in pain, i think it cares
dieath
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i meant the memories for the one doing it -_-


i actually wasnt talking about what you said, thats my literal opinion, and squirming is an instinct that dosent mean it can care, or hold a grudge especially when it dosent have the capacity for memories.
Blu3sBr0s
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Is eating an egg murder of a chicken? If you don't think it is, then you cannot say an abortion is murder of a child.

try killing something and it will squirm in pain, i think it cares


I am not exactly mr.abortion =P. I know nothing of how it's done. But does the whole squirming in pain thing actually happen?
Green12324
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I haven't researched the health care bill Obama is proposing, but I doubt that he would propose to use tax payer money for something so controversial.

However, I don't believe that health care should cover abortion outside of **** cases (there you go censor, I asterisked it for you). If a woman gets pregnant for not using protection it's her own fault, and she can the price. Whether it be raising a kid, or paying for an abortion.

"But what if the guy won't wear a condom!?" - Don't have sex.

Graham
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murder is defined by one human killing another

But does the whole squirming in pain thing actually happen?

don't take everything so literally

squirming is an instinct that dosent mean it can care,


ants care about survival of their queen. if you are hurt then little messages saying "BAD" go to you and then you choose whether to defend or run away
Blu3sBr0s
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don't take everything so literally


alright

murder is defined by one human killing another


you got me there.
Green12324
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murder is defined by one human killing another


What about the killing of a fetus? That's all it is until the second trimester. If aborted during this time, the fetus won't feel a thing or have any idea what is going on.
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Is eating an egg murder of a chicken? If you don't think it is, then you cannot say an abortion is murder of a child.


Huh wow i cant believe you actaully used that. Chickens, ARE FOR EATING

What about the killing of a fetus? That's all it is until the second trimester. If aborted during this time, the fetus won't feel a thing or have any idea what is going on.


But it has a soul!!!
Green12324
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Chickens, ARE FOR EATING


But it has a soul!!!
Somers
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Chickens, ARE FOR EATING
But it has a soul!!!


The bible says that animals are for eating. Im pretty sure eating a chicken, and killing another being are different
Green12324
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The bible says


My book "Exploring the Wonders of the Mind" says that chickens are just like humans, except with a less developed mind and a different body.

Seriously, the Bible is just a very over rated book.

As for whether or not a fetus has a soul, no one knows. Since it can't be proved whether or not souls even exist.
Blu3sBr0s
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The bible says that animals are for eating. Im pretty sure eating a chicken, and killing another being are different


Maybe according to the bible. But not according to everyone. It's called a supervegan.
Dragon1Reborn
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ok here is a tip for pro-life people.

1. don't bring the bible up, i am a devout christain but it hurts your cause not helps it.

2. at conseption a child is created. it is alive, you can't kill something that is already dead right? so that means in order to kill a baby it needs to be alive, and because it is alive it is called a human being. so by killing a baby you are commiting murder.

3. killing a baby that is a product of r.ape does not "unrape" the mother, she still has all the memorys of it and the guilt of killing a baby.

ok back on topic. look at the health care bill you will find it on there that abortion will be paid for if it passes

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