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Dragon1Reborn
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obama wants to use our tax money to pay for abortions with the new health care bill, now for some people that would be ok with them. but for me i am Pro-life and i want to choise how my money is spent. what are your ideas?

p.s. this is not a forum to talk if abortion is bad or good just to see if it should be in the new health care

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Sssssnnaakke
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I am for prolife put I am also a prochoice it should be the descion of a person not the goverment if they want obortion health care. PLus abortion adds money to the health care bill.

thelistman
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I'm pro-choice. But I think abortions should be paid for by tax dollars only in the case of rape.

BigP08
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I'm pro-choice. But I think abortions should be paid for by tax dollars only in the case of ****.

Why then? I actually think the only way it should be paid for is if the mother has a medical problem that will occur from giving birth. That makes sense to fit under the health care bill.
Helrayser
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I only say yes, because I think people should get abortions from being raped, I've heard of several people getting pregnant from being raped, they shouldnt have to deal with a baby or have to pay money to get an abortion just cause some doucher knocked them up, if they weren't raped then they should have to pay for it

thelistman
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Why then? I actually think the only way it should be paid for is if the mother has a medical problem that will occur from giving birth. That makes sense to fit under the health care bill.

You're right, if the mother's life or health is in danger, that should be paid for as well. I knew I forgot something.

Green12324
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and because it is alive it is called a human being.


Technically, it's a fetus. Not quite human yet.

killing a baby that is a product of r.ape does not "unrape" the mother, she still has all the memorys of it and the guilt of killing a baby.


No, but raising a child or putting it up for adoption is going to cause her grief that wouldn't have had to be caused. Sure, aborting it is going to cause her temporary grief, but it's something that she should be able to get over easier. And if she's having an abortion she should have already thought it out and be sure about what she's doing.

I am for prolife put I am also a prochoice


...how is that possible?


I agree with it being paid for when the mother would other wise be harmed, by the way. Helrayser reminded me.
thisisnotanalt
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Only if the mother has any sort of physical or mental health risk pertaining to the baby, or during the first trimester when the fetus is far, far from human or even semi-sentience.

ShylaGirl92
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a fetus is still a human, it can feel .... but any way I do think that health care should pay for an abortion even though I think abortion's are very very wrong

Lieutenut
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I'm pro-choice, but I don't think that tax money should be used because of mistakes made by people who couldn't use a condom or birth control =/

Green12324
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a fetus is still a human, it can feel


It's believed that most fetuses cannot feel pain until late into the third trimester. After 99% of all abortions are performed. Some researchers even say that the fetus cannot feel pain at all, and will only be able to when it is born.
ShylaGirl92
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it does not matter, we do not have the right to kill a child befor it has a chance to even live :/

thisisnotanalt
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a fetus is still a human


A fetus is not a human.

fetus =/= human

fetus = blob of cells that may develop into a human.

it does not matter, we do not have the right to kill a child befor it has a chance to even live :/


A fetus is not a child.

An embryo is not a child.

A zygote is not a child.
ShylaGirl92
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maybe not to you, you are a guy. But to me A girl a fetus is a child. it is a part of you and you made it. we still have no right to kill it.

Green12324
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maybe not to you, you are a guy.


Our debate is backed by science, not morals.

But to me A girl a fetus is a child


You may feel that way about it, but technically it's not a child.
ShylaGirl92
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when it comes to a life *it being a fetus or not* morals are better than science to me.

and who gave us the right to say if it is a child or not, or if it should get the chance to live of not ?

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