ForumsWEPR[necro] Why you don't believe in God?

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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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the_manta
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He's not believed to be God...


W-WHAAAT?!

:P Juuuust kidding. BigP08 gives me the vibe that not everyone realizes that, haha.

But yeah. I believe in God, but accept that there is no materialistic proof...

I'm weird like that...
BigP08
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:P Juuuust kidding. BigP08 gives me the vibe that not everyone realizes that, haha.

I wasn't 100% sure. Some people on here say the stupidest things. Then again, you're a longtime AGer.
Thyll
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Maybe god isn't a person. Maybe, maybe it's more a force. Gravityish.
Hmmm... I've never thought of it that way before.

the_manta
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I wasn't 100% sure. Some people on here say the stupidest things. Then again, you're a longtime AGer.


I generally refrain from saying stupid statements unless I actually do it on purpose. Most people are able to tell when I'm kidding or not on account of me being the smartest idiot on Earth.

Or something.

But yeah, bottom line, I can see why people wouldn't believe in God. It's a matter of faith.
Thyll
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me being the smartest idiot on Earth.

RAWR! That's MY title.
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I know a lot of Christians believe God is, was, and always will be. But how about this? What if something big-bangish created God, THEN he, as an intelligent designer, created the world to function so well? God, while appearing to be more complex than the world, might not be. He's one man who can't die, who doesn't depend on something else to survive, who, before creating the world (according to the Bible), existed in nothing. I think it's possible he was created.

The only problem I have with that is you can change the big bang theory enough to put god in at any point with no real change.
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i agree with marton96 everyone is entitled to their opinion

samy
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i agree with marton96 everyone is entitled to their opinion


Well..no. Maybe I'm wrong and I'll be punished by some other deity or Karma for saying I believe in God, but unfortunatly if your wrong God isn't going to be like oh sorry your opinion right never mind go right in sorry I'm stupid...
Kasic
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unfortunatly if your wrong God isn't going to be like oh sorry your opinion right never mind go right in sorry I'm stupid...


The way i've always interpreted the bible is that even if you don't beleive in god jeseus christ died to take away all of our sins. Doesn't that include the sin of not believing in God? If god is truly a "Caring" god as christianity would put it then I feel like he would forgive you for being ignorant and not beleiving in him; that he would be satisfied knowing that you now know he exists and has his ways and that you are but his servant. In my opinion, if the christian god is real, you don't need to beleive in him, just don't go around killing people and stealing and breaking the commandments and I feel like he would let you into hevean if it exists.
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someone just poured concrete in those boots kid. theyre not fossils.

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(DDX, are you sure you're in the right thread? LOL)

People break the commandments every day. I'm sure he wouldn't mind us doing that at all. After all, we are forgiven, aren't we? :-O

DDX
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(DDX, are you sure you're in the right thread? LOL)


yea I am. I was answering the question on the front page.
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The way i've always interpreted the bible is that even if you don't beleive in god jeseus christ died to take away all of our sins. Doesn't that include the sin of not believing in God? If god is truly a "Caring" god as christianity would put it then I feel like he would forgive you for being ignorant and not beleiving in him; that he would be satisfied knowing that you now know he exists and has his ways and that you are but his servant. In my opinion, if the christian god is real, you don't need to beleive in him, just don't go around killing people and stealing and breaking the commandments and I feel like he would let you into hevean if it exists.


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Pretend those words are in red
Darkfr0st
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To start I'm agnostic for the record. Second I respect others beliefs just don't drown me with them. Zealots/fanatics are dangerous, history teaches us so.

I have nothing in particular to quote on this thread but as a whole, but who's to say whats the correct path.

There's plenty I could say on this topic, however the battle shall continue to rage. Till the day these religions become myths just like the Greeks and Romans. For remember, They were religions to them long before they became "myths"

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Really need an edit function for typos : P

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