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Why many (Most, maybe some, I don't know.) liberals are being extremely intolerant towards conservatives, even going so far as to bash them. As far as I know, this is against one of their most dear ideologies, which is tolerance. I'm not bashing anyone (Although I could see several people on here doing so if they wrote this), I'm just trying to figure this out. Any reasons why?

Just a note: I see this far more commonly is liberals than conservatives, but then again, most people on here are liberals, as well as in my own personal life.

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Moegreche
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I'm not sure this is the case at all. Right wing conservatives, and especially those in the religious right, are far more politicized, active, and outspoken than their leftist counterparts.
Certainly left wingers are political as well, but their actions tend to be aimed at "the man" rather than a specific political faction.
I mean, just a few days ago Rush Limbaugh compared Obama's health plan to the Holocaust. That seems to fall under the realm of "bashing" more so than any liberal rhetoric I've heard.

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I can't speak for liberals because, well, I'm mostly conservative. But when regarding political ideaologies, I've found myself to be intolerant because I feel I'm right. Not to make excuses for myself, but that's just a part of being human; we all think we're right or we wouldn't hold the beliefs we hold.
And since I think I'm right, I find that sometimes I need to make everyone else see what I see (not to quote Saw 4, but...), and since that's impossible, I will become impatient and rude regarding other people's beliefs.
I find this even more common in religions. I know that wasn't what your thread was about, but that might help explain Jehova's Witnesses and other religions that might want converts a little too badly. Anyway, that's only from my experiences, and there might be other motives behind this kind of stuff.

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I mean, just a few days ago Rush Limbaugh compared Obama's health plan to the Holocaust.


I can understand that, but mostly just people in general. It's very hard even for me to be far right, as it is for most people. But there is something about being far left that is easier. That might be the question I'm wondering. . . .

Well, health care in Nazi Germany was a major issue with Hitler. Just saying. . . .
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Well, health care in Nazi Germany was a major issue with Hitler. Just saying. . . .

huh, you would not think it would ya?
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Eh, I've never really noticed the left bashing the right more. Or the right bashing the left more. We all do our fair amount of bashing, but I think it's mostly the people involved with major political parties, or religions. You don't see the people in the Green party bashing everyone.

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I think bashing is mainly due to a poor example set by our leaders. In many ways I believe that politics and media coverage act as an intellectual bread and circuses, sensationalizing issues intentionally for what is almost a twisted entertainment factor. Jerry Springer for people with somewhat higher IQs.

But I think it's largely acting. It's like top leaders from both parties have a list of issues they agree to fight over, and a list they agree to never bring up 'cause *no one* wants to talk about them.

Crisis and drama sells, people. It's allllll part of the show. And while conservatives and liberals are fighting each other over designated issues, other legislation is quietly getting passed.

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Because Ann coulter.

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I have no tolerance for your inability to title a post

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Because Ann coulter.


That's not even a complete sentence!
Veobahamut
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That's not even a complete sentence!


If you knew about the man who is known as Ann coulter then you wouldn't have a problem.
BigP08
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If you knew about the man who is known as Ann coulter then you wouldn't have a problem.

If you're going to insult Ann Coulter, at least do it right; she doesn't look anything like a man. Although, I suppose this is based on political perspective. For instance, Hilary Clinton doesn't appear very feminine to me, but I'm sure you'd have a different opinion.
So maybe rather than use one conservative as an excuse, with only insults with no logic, you could answer the thread question.
And by the way, Ernie's problem was that you didn't write a complete sentence. Even if he knew about Ann Coulter, that doesn't make it a complete sentence, so he'd still have a problem.
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Political groups bash on each other when no one can think of intelligent arguements (which seems to be much of the time). When it comes down to it most Americans aren't as far to the left or right as some media outlets seem to think. A lot of people who would consider themselves conservative don't totally agree with the extreme right-ism of people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Rielly. A lot of people who would consider themselves liberal don't totally agree with the extreme left-ism of people like Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann.
I would have to say that it's about half media bias and half the fact that most people who really want to go into politics are of one or the other extreme.

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If you're going to insult Ann Coulter, at least do it right; she doesn't look anything like a man. Although, I suppose this is based on political perspective. For instance, Hilary Clinton doesn't appear very feminine to me, but I'm sure you'd have a different opinion.

No, Hilary Clinton doesn't really look very feminine, but what does feminine look like anyway? For that matter what does masculine look like? And what does either really have to do with what a person is really like? Though I figure you get what I'm saying there already.

But returning to the point...While I agree with you, Big, that insulting Ann Coulter is kind of pointless, I find myself thinking that it's pointless to insult her because that would only seem to be stooping to the same level as her. I only say this because it seems as though that's what she does a lot of, insults left-wingers. The titles of her books alone show that she has no place in unbiased news coverage, I'm only glad that she fully admits it. I don't consider myself a liberal by any means (though I guess I tend to agree with more liberal views then conserative ones) but looking at that woman's website made me want to spit. Here look for yourselves and see what you think. I guess to me most of it seems harsh and uncalled for but I suppose that's because I like to be presented with facts not just opinions. If journalists are going to give me opinions I want the opinions on both sides and I don't want to have to hear opinions that the journalist doesn't agree with torn to shreds.
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I understand, LadyTurtleToes. I don't read Ann Coulter myself, but since I'm conservative, I probably agree with a lot of her viewpoints; just not the bashing and stuff. But I don't respect public bashing no matter who does it to whom.

No, Hilary Clinton doesn't really look very feminine, but what does feminine look like anyway? For that matter what does masculine look like? And what does either really have to do with what a person is really like? Though I figure you get what I'm saying there already.

I'm saying that I've seen what Ann Coulter looks like, and she doesn't look like a man to me. So I'm assuming that we see only what we want to see in these political figures; albeit, that's not the best insult because, like you said, what does feminine look like? I was just using it to show what it sounded like.
I guess to me most of it seems harsh and uncalled for but I suppose that's because I like to be presented with facts not just opinions.

Me too. Even when an opinion exists in my favor, it's just rhetoric. I like to understand the concept itself, so I tend to get my news from all over the place.

Anyway, I was just turning the insult around to show what it sounded like when pointed in the other direction. I don't like seeing it in either direction, but if it has to point somewhere, I have to turn it around.
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I'm not conservative or liberal, so I can't give an opinion.

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