ForumsWEPRGod: Possibly Not a God?

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valkyrie1119
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Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing, and able?
then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?

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wistress
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I don't think that some old guy poofed into existence and started creating everything. A higher power? Then where did that come from? Questions, questions.


LOL ..&quotoof" is exactly the right word, because that is actually the only way one could believe unless they actually do believe in an infinite entity ... mind boggling, isn't it?
SkullZero1
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To put my opinion on the matter in analogical terms, The universe is a giant 'clock' set into motion by the 'clockmaker' or God. God created the universe we see now with evolution and all other scientific theories that may 'conflict with the bible'. Life on Earth, complete luck. Life on other planets, probable. What made the big bang? God, what made God? Nothing, he always 'was'. The Big Bang is almost like a scientific 'god', not in the fact that they worship it but more along the way that its completely unexplainable. Is the evidence of the big bang not evidence enough that there is a god? Where did this super dense and volatile mass of particle come from? Whats the more logical answer rather then God himself?

ShylaGirl92
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Huh? Do you NOT see how contrary that statement is on its own? "He", meaning God, "cursed Adam and Eve" ... once again, a statement indicative of a malevolent act.


its not evil, if you stop thinking about what you think is fact and think about what could be, and you would understind

I don't understand how anyone can believe that it's OK to be malicious as long as you are God, but if you are the Devil,or a human being, it's against all moral fiber. Evil is evil no matter who it's perpetrated by; the delegation of evil is STILL evil; A transference of evil is still evil; Administering evil unto others is still evil.


its not evil as I said be4, just think about it.

how was God himself created?


I still wonder about it, it is said that he is a spirit, and that he never was reall created, he has allways just been there..... there is a lot of people who say that it was a great ball of gas or something in that matter. but I dont think anyone really knows the answer other than God himself.
Lieutenut
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children are more aware of God, and are better wit God than most people are.


Yes... because they are still young, ignorant, and naive >.> you just pretty much proved my point again...

very well put ....and very well thought out, but im not saying God is evil, he cursed us wit what out first mother and father did *adam and eve* im cursed wit things my realy mother and father did. its not evil. there is nothing else I can say to that, if you dont believe what I say about it, I cant make you and I dont want to make you.


what this guy said.

So under that so of system if your mother drinks and drives even if you weren't there you should also be charged with a DUI as well as every female descendant you have. This is hardly a loving or good system to use even for our imperfect human standards let alone standards a supposed perfect all loving being should be using.
wistress
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its not evil, if you stop thinking about what you think is fact and think about what could be, and you would understind


Sorry, no can do ...I live in a world of facts, not fairytale ..if you remember my older posts, I too once believed as you, as I grew a little older I started asking too many questions to myself about God and the bible and my religion because their were too many contradictions in the bible and therefore my teachings ... yes, I started searching for the truth. Came to find out, now that I am an adult, that NO such answer exist ... why? Because it's all fallacy.
In life, I do not devolve, I evolve. That is why I can't possibly understand blind belief.
ShylaGirl92
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Yes... because they are still young, ignorant, and naive >.> you just pretty much proved my point again...


I really did not, but like I said be4, if you are not open to something you will not see what Im trying to say.
Lieutenut
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I really did not, but like I said be4, if you are not open to something you will not see what Im trying to say.


Well, then just tell me what you mean, I'll try my best to comprehend but so far it seems to me that you just keep contradicting yourself.... sorta like all religions >.> lol
ShylaGirl92
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Well, then just tell me what you mean, I'll try my best to comprehend but so far it seems to me that you just keep contradicting yourself.... sorta like all religions >.> lol


lol sad thing is you are right, about the religion thing. and what I mean is, that children have a better understanding, God is not hard to understand, it takes a simple mind to really understand God, God loves children he wants to be wit them, because they dont compair things they just want to love and be loved....

I theis does not make sence then im sry, and I will give up on it now ,
Lieutenut
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lol sad thing is you are right, about the religion thing. and what I mean is, that children have a better understanding, God is not hard to understand, it takes a simple mind to really understand God, God loves children he wants to be wit them, because they dont compair things they just want to love and be loved....


I think I understand, children's minds are &quoture"? HOWEVER...

it takes a simple mind to really understand


...nuff said...

because they dont compair things


Well of course they will believe if they don't compare it to anything.
wistress
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Where did this super dense and volatile mass of particle come from?


The same can be said of God, where did "He" come from?

Whats the more logical answer rather then God himself?


That's a more "logical" answer to you.
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No its something that is passed down, he cursed adam and eve, and they passed it down to there children and so on and so on, it is a sin just like I said be4 I am cursed wit thins my mother and fater did.

No as the female discendant you would be cursed wit the aftermath of your mother drinking,


My original statement still stands. This is a poor system to use specially for a supposed perfect all loving being.

okay I see your point, but did we learn from it ?? Im not going to say I think it was right, cause it was not.... but God has a reason 4 everything, I dont know what the reason 4 all of that was, but Im not going to question God.


No we haven't learned from it we are still doing this stuff. In some case not to the same extent but it's still there.and the last thing on that list is a modern example still going on in full swing today.

Also why not question god? If he is suppose to be all knowing I would think he would be the perfect one to question.

why would there be more than one path though.


I'm not sure if I understand what your saying here.

its not evil, if you stop thinking about what you think is fact and think about what could be, and you would understind


This is just a plea for ignorance. So basically what your saying is we should ignore all the fact and physical evidence for the Bible to make sense?

lol sad thing is you are right, about the religion thing.


All the contradictions is what make it so useless.

So basically you are saying ignore testable evidence be ignorant and rely solely on contradictory information. You know if we did that we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
MageGrayWolf
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I love these topics... because it allows us all to see the arrogance in so many people on this site.. They think because there is no such thing in god that they gotta make fun of anyone who does. Like please keep this sh't to urself, we dont give a f'ck anymore. Add on to the other topics or sumthing because really half of us think your a r'tard for not believing in a God. Everyone has different beliefs and there is no use argueing it becuase in the end we will all stay the same... Stop making topics like this cuz it aint a topic


First off your showing yourself to be the arrogant one here. Second off there is really no need to resort to insults. While ShylaGirl and myself clearly disagree I think we have managed to stay respectful of each other despite the argument. I can say the same for most of the other posters in this thread thus far as well.
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I think god just got his popcorn, and is back to watching the bad tv show Humanity season 2

Season 1 was cavemen and the "great flood"

Lieutenut
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They think because there is no such thing in god that they gotta make fun of anyone who does.


Uhm, could I see some examples of people who "gotta make fun of anyone who does [believe in God]"?

Stop making topics like this cuz it aint a topic


How isn't it a topic? The forum is called "World Events, Politics, Religion, etc.

Trust me, I understand if you're angry... but I just don't understand why with the reasons you posted. I could think of some reasons but the ones you posted I don't see a need to get angry over.
valkyrie1119
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I love these topics... because it allows us all to see the arrogance in so many people on this site.. They think because there is no such thing in god that they gotta make fun of anyone who does. Like please keep this sh't to urself, we dont give a f'ck anymore. Add on to the other topics or sumthing because really half of us think your a r'tard for not believing in a God. Everyone has different beliefs and there is no use argueing it becuase in the end we will all stay the same... Stop making topics like this cuz it aint a topic


Wow. Back in my flaming days, I would be cussing at you until I got banned. That's how much of a troll you are. Luckily, I don't do that anymore. Your incompetence should be reported to the mods.
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