ForumsWEPRObamas tax hikes, bailouts, and speech.

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Excelsior
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A day or two ago president Obama brought forth to the students in this schools nations a speech, concieved in Political messeges, and dedicated to the his health"care" propaganda that all people's amount of money should be equal.

Now we are enganged in a great partisan war, testing whether that propaganda, or any liberal propaganda, so concieved and so subtle, can long be given to the naive children. We are met on the great political battlefield of healthcare, political, and economic reform. We have come to dedicate a great portion of our time protesting at town hall meetings with tea parties, and protesting in front of bank-owned buildings for those who gave their hard earned money so that AIG and other banks' executives could live in a life of personal luxury. It is altogether fitting and proper that we oppose Obama's healthcare and bailouts for the good of the hardworkin' taxpayin' godfearin' patriots in this nation.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot attempt to allow huge tax hikes in a time of great financial difficulties. The families of this nation, on Main Street or Wall Street or Unpaved street, who struggle constantly in this nation, are going to be hit much harder with these tax hikes than any of us could imagine. The nation will greatly note, and will long remember our fight to endure the security of our general welfare and our hard earned money, and to endure free enterprise in this nation.

It is for us today to oppose the tax hike and healthcare plan and the presidents propaganda speeches so that our future generations can prosper, and that our economy outlined by the Founding Father's, is dedicated to the great task remaining before us-that from the honored founders we take increased devotion to that cause for which they so valiantly fought their high-taxing king, and so that their work has not died in vain- and that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of economic freedom from the government for the people, by the people, and of the people shall not have perished from the Earth.

Please, share any criticism you have of the tea party protesters and those who fight for their right to sell what they want without the government stealing their money to give to the banks.

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TSL3_needed
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Yeah, he tends to do that alot. Its pretty normal, actually, for people who waste their life on the internet. They lose all their social skills, which results in loss in self esteem and temper.


I have a life to start with. I'm more social then you'd ever be, and I just have a bad temper.

Yeah, I remember TSl3 getting insane over someone on the internet.
You know, that time you kept swearing at that one guy and putting him on your "**** you" list.


Fuck you. XD
RonPaul
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And by proof, I want a picture of you, timestamped with sharpie, and than another picture of you, also timestamped, with at least four others of the same agegroup as you.


And he'd better be naked in all those photos!

Clothes are a tool by your fascist government to control you and your money. In fact, I am naked as I type this.
TSL3_needed
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With anarchy, you get riots and guerilla groups fighting in the streets and violence. And then the majority will seek to end that, by going to the people who can create a government, no matter what type, democracy or dictatorship.


You realize that's what I want?

Anarchy is based on the flawed ideology that humans are angels. They are not.


Not the anarchy I follow, which is a technical ideology. A true anarchy would be based off of take from the weak. You don't got it, then die. Makes humanity much stronger.

People would form their own laws, with their own codes. They would fix their own problems. Not let the shiz government take care of everything under the sun.
RonPaul
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You realize that's what I want?


...a dictatorship?

People would form their own laws, with their own codes. They would fix their own problems. Not let the shiz government take care of everything under the sun.


You know, except no one would follow eachothers laws. And whoever makes the laws = government. Your argument fails.
Graham
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A true anarchy would be based off of take from the weak. You don't got it, then die. Makes humanity much stronger.


oooohhhh, you're talking about natural selection. it would help the human race physically, but not intellectually. Steven Hawking would be an example
TSL3_needed
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...a dictatorship?


A true dictatorship, not flawed with the petty problems of the world. A hyper small governemnt that runs the show from behind the scenes. Not this BS government we have now.

You know, except no one would follow eachothers laws. And whoever makes the laws = government. Your argument fails.


No. A government also has to punish those. Anarchies establish who does what, without question. Laws are codes.

That's like saying your parents are a government, when they are just guides and rulebooks.
Moegreche
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Keep in mind that I'm only counting objections made to the OP, not to each other or any posts made thereafter.
Also, if your objection is itself fallacious, I won't count it. You have to show why the statement/argument doesn't work, or else show that it is fallacious. I would also like to see what type of fallacy it is. You can just Google "informal fallacies" and get a nice list of some common ones.

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I don't like Obama's plan, but then again if I ( The great VoteSocialist ) were to be elected I would first better my understanding of the economy like Jimmy Carter and then stick with this plan:

Evolve the health care system in a way similar to Obama's methode. But, go further and make a larger public health care option with very strict government regulations on health industries. I just think under Obama's plan the private companies may find more loop holes in the name of profit. In the past, these companies have put profit above ethics.

Also, bailouts are wrong, not only are people saying it's deadly socialism ( a notion which misrepresents the socialists ), but also goes against the laurels of capitalism. But I can't blame Obama in a sense that if nothing was done to prevent economic an downfall, it could cause a global economic crisis.

Excelsior
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Keep in mind that I'm only counting objections made to the OP, not to each other or any posts made thereafter.
Also, if your objection is itself fallacious, I won't count it. You have to show why the statement/argument doesn't work, or else show that it is fallacious. I would also like to see what type of fallacy it is. You can just Google "informal fallacies" and get a nice list of some common ones.


Bonus points for whoever figures out which speech i based my post off of.
Moegreche
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Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and lock this thread. The conversation has taken a turn in a negative direction.
I'll tally the score in a while and let the winner know.
In the future, it would be best to simply stick to the opening post during this game. Continued conversation with trolls can only make things worse.

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