I don't know about anyone else, but when I was younger I had behavioural issues. My parents took me to several differnt psychiatrists (I don't know how to spell it) and every one of them initially jumped on, "I beleive he has a form of ADHD, or ADD" after my mom told them that we had already ruled it out, they didn't seem surprised and moved right onto bipolar disorder. In any case, out of around 6-7 differnt physicians, they all went to ADHD first. I grew up, I never had ADHD, I was just a child, immature like many others, I didn't want to wait, I didn't think what others said was important. I want your opinion on whether ADHD is actually a disorder or just a person who is bored and/or easily bored.
For how long? It has to be insanely challenging or complex to hold my complete concentration for any real length of time. Plus a lot of times I play music in the background to help me concentrate. Don't ask I don't know why it works. It pisses my wife off with the strange things I do to concentrate or get some things done.
ridelein or some adavan.. That should get them to focus..
Deserteagle, do you know what those meds do? They essentially tranquilize the child. They make the kid feel both physically and mentally tired. It takes more effort to do everything and it doesn't help you pay attention, it just makes it so that if you get bored or something you aren't likely to go around throwing paper airplanes or moving. Those meds are not answers, they just make life around other people calmer.
Deserteagle, do you know what those meds do? They essentially tranquilize the child. They make the kid feel both physically and mentally tired. It takes more effort to do everything and it doesn't help you pay attention, it just makes it so that if you get bored or something you aren't likely to go around throwing paper airplanes or moving. Those meds are not answers, they just make life around other people calmer.
that's very false.
for those who have moderate to severe ADHD can't concentrate nearly as well without those pills. however, while on those pills, the condition's nearly unnoticeable.
yes, some children with ADHD get a "downer" feeling from it, but that's because either A) they were misdiagnosed or B) they were given too high of a dosage.
for those who have a worse case of the condition, they know how much those pills help.
That, and what dierjen previously said, we eed to actually pay attention to our children, spend time with them, nurture them. Society has become so downward in actual family compassion it is just humilating. Honestly, society needs to lay off on their ridiclously high expectations on parents, but also not pressure younger generations into such abdominable things. Media has distorted what really matters. You just enjoy the fact were all alive, and we have someone to grasp and hug. I've been ripped apart by my job, both mentally and physcially.. Literally. I don't want the same to happen to anyone.
Society has become so downward in actual family compassion it is just humilating
In a way this is societys fault. Parents recently and previously have had children but both parents work. This causes the child to think that they can do whatever they want because when they are left unattended they ARE able to do those things. The problems come in when authority is RE-introduced and the child has grown accustomed to having personal freedom. Thus comes in the defiance and boredom and attorcious behaviors.
I'm sure many of you would agree that a child shouldn't be brought up to act without thinking of the consequences
In most cases, the parents aren't even there to teach the child that, much less fail at it if they are bad parents. How many people do you know that have 2 working parents and the kids get left at home? There's 3 just in my cul-de-sac, and that's all the families but mine.
I don't think I've ever seen an adult with severe ADHD; why do children have it then? I'm not doubting that some children have shorter attention spans than others, I'm just saying that some of those children need a good ol' fashioned paddling. I'm also not trying to be mean, it's just that that's how things got done back in the day. Children didn't need medicine.
I'm not doubting that some children have shorter attention spans than others, I'm just saying that some of those children need a good ol' fashioned paddling. I'm also not trying to be mean, it's just that that's how things got done back in the day.
And prior to accurate studies & a proper diagnosis, it was acceptable to hit your own soldiers when they were hospitalized for "shell shock".
Thinking that modern medical science should bow to 'the good old days' is pretty shocking. Should we go back to no vaccines, no organ transplants, and no physical therapy because that's how they used to do it?
Thinking that modern medical science should bow to 'the good old days' is pretty shocking. Should we go back to no vaccines, no organ transplants, and no physical therapy because that's how they used to do it?
That is not what I said. If kids had a mental problem like ADHD, parents didn't go to doctors like they do now. They disciplined them. I'm not saying we shouldn't use cures for diseases like cancer, or aids. I'm just saying let's control the things we can control.
I'm just saying let's control the things we can control.
It is something we can control - but to your earlier sentence:
If kids had a mental problem like ADHD, parents didn't go to doctors like they do now. They disciplined them.
Right, so instead of seeking out help from medical professionals on determining if it is ADD or ADHD and getting a proper diagnosis, or discovering that the children are just not being raised properly - and giving those parents education on the subject and the proper tools to help deal with the issue, those parents should just discipline their children instead?
Right, so instead of seeking out help from medical professionals on determining if it is ADD or ADHD and getting a proper diagnosis, or discovering that the children are just not being raised properly - and giving those parents education on the subject and the proper tools to help deal with the issue, those parents should just discipline their children instead?
It depends what you mean by disciplin them. Are we talking violence or some barriers that parents should be enforcing. I dont entierly trust a medical profession run by money, as they can sometimes have alterior motives. But I agree parents should be given help, and drugs are a real last resort in my opinion.
I agree with Analogmunky. I don't think meds are the right choice. Doping up every child just cuz he/she won't sit still is not going to help in the long run. How much are these drugs impeding our kids creativity or stop their ability to become scientists, doctors, or anything requiring a high skill level. Too bad nobody seems to want to study and find a real fix instead of just pumping kids up with downers.
