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MageGrayWolf
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This is a subject that has cropped up in a couple threads already so I figure why not give it it's own thread.

So the questions
Was the Biblical Jesus a real person?
If not was there at least a historical Jesus used as a basis for the stories?
Could it have been a complete fabrication?

Please provide evidence for or against your argument. If you use the Bible provide external sources to also back up your claim.

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Cenere
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Oh, this again...

I am not sure if you will take Wikipedia as a source, but the issue has its own website and this might be usable too.

I did not know there was people who still discussed this issue as it seems to have been proven (as much as anything can be proven) that Jesus in fact was a historical person (but most likely unable to walk on the water and stuff like that)...

Moe
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If I remember correctly there is proof a man called Jesus who was a well known and important person. However I doubt he did many, if any, of the things talked about in the bible.

Somers
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It does mention him in my history book

WoodyGuthrie
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I'll tell you what, even if there was a man who fits the description of jesus, his name would not have been jesus and all of the stories about him are probably comparable to a prehistoric version of 'chuck norris' jokes in a serious manner. People in these times were very susceptible to imagination in the name of religion.

Fall0ut
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I believe that jesus lived but I dont think that there is any evidence of him living. It would be awsome if he did...i dont think his son of "GOD" maybe some healer or something.

Yaan
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Uhmm.. it probably existed, but i dont believe in that God thing, but hey, its a religion that millions of people around the worl belive, we got to respect that.

~Yaan

jonnypants23
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Um he is real , and hes still alive in heaven .

Nurvana
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whether he was the son of God or not, he was real. thats a proven historical fact.

Kasic
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Yes, there was a person named jesus christ.


still alive in heaven


Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? Don't you go to heaven when you die?

I highly doubt he was the son of god, no offense, but from what is in the bible, aside from his supposed perfection, he was extrodinaraly conceited. All he ever did was go around telling other people that he was son of god and that he was right and they were wrong.
tomertheking
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whether he was the son of God or not, he was real. thats a proven historical fact.


right
balerion07
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Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? Don't you go to heaven when you die?


Enoch and Elijah both went to heaven without dying.
yielee
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The closest I could find left a gap of 33 years after Yeshua's crucifixion based on accounts of history that's not included in the Holy Bible. These were Christians in the early days who were being killed cause they would not deny Jesus.

Don't worry, a gap of 33 years for historical accounts of 2000 years ago is very very very very very short!

MageGrayWolf
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Sorry everyone I have been rather busy these past few days. I will try to get reply to you on the points you have brought up.

Cenere thank you for the links I have see the wiki page on this before I will read through the other links you provided as well.

AnaLoGMunKy
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whether he was the son of God or not, he was real. thats a proven historical fact.


No its not. No... just... no.

I dont care what people say, there is NO evidence of jesus exept word of mouth. Im pretty sure the bible was written AFTER his death as well, which makes it even more unlikely.

Religion aside, I truly dont belive jesus was a real man.
TRUdog
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Im pretty sure the bible was written AFTER his death as well

No... just... no
The Old Testament was written before the New Testament. And when Jesus came... the Old Testament was already written and completed... and then people started writing the New Testament when they discovered Jesus was the Messiah.
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