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Indiagamerz
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Should we send more troops into Afghanistan?

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German3945
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Lol, that's not how it goes at all, goumas.

The extremist organizations are terrorizing them, and we're coming in to their villages and we need good occupancy to really drive the Taliban from the village, which sometimes means one soldier per household, which doesn't send a very nice message.
They've had problems theorizing what determines a "good balance".

goumas13
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There are many examples of persons who become terrorist because our soldiers have accidentally killed or injured relatives of theirs. Many afghans prefer to join the Talibans than to assist our troops. It's easier for them to join groups of person who share some common beliefs and characteristics to fight a "common enemy", the invaders, than to accept strangers as their "saviors". They do not want our troops there. It's easy to understand why.

German3945
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The Taliban is the invader. Our troops' job is to drive out the invader.

Sometimes we appear to be the invader because even though they know that we're protecting them, and they're grateful for protection, they don't enjoy the occupancy.

Either way, it's being worked on.

It's an easy thing to bring up but not an easy thing to solve.

goumas13
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The Taliban is the invader.

Of course they are and we have to show it.

We have to help them not only by fighting, but we have to help them organize their country, teach them and give them the resource they need to assist us. They have to participate more, the only way to get rid of the Taliban threat is to make the people to stop wanting them at all, as long as some person admire the Taliban and think that they protect them from the "dirty" westerns every effort is vain.

Also we have to admit that the troops in Afghanistan have committed some crimes, which have to be reduced.
German3945
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We have to help them not only by fighting, but we have to help them organize their country, teach them and give them the resource they need to assist us. They have to participate more,

We've been doing ALL of that! Since the beginning of the year, the Afghanistan military has been going through tough training. We're starting on this earlier than we did with Iraq, we learned the obvious lesson.
goumas13
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We've been doing ALL of that!

Only partially, there are many areas which are still controlled by the Taliban. When we go there they retreat and when we leave they come back.
We're starting on this earlier than we did with Iraq

Let's not talk about Iraq.
German3945
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Only partially, there are many areas which are still controlled by the Taliban. When we go there they retreat and when we leave they come back.

That's exactly why we're getting more troops!

We need mid- to long-term occupancy, and decent occupancy, in nearly every village controlled by the Taliban. We also need to hunt down their leaders, which we've gotten a main guy earlier this year, and more troops will allow occupancy in the most frequented areas (cut off supplies) and at the same time allow pursuit of main Taliban forces.

Let's not talk about Iraq.

I agree, but the failures of Iraq are what this war is going to be compared to (other than the fact that this war has a very clear-cut purpose).

but yes, let's not talk about it, but just know that certain things in this war are already being done differently. We've learned.
goumas13
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We also need to hunt down their leaders

They are very hard to track down, they can easily hide in the vast mountains and then they are almost impossible to find.
The problem is that they have contacts outside, so they can easily communicate with their fighters, if they are not isolated they will keep controlling every place where there aren't enough troops.
Alpha791
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I say we pull the troops and nuke 'em!

Somers
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Abandon every military base in the world to attack one nation... Ummmm NO. If you thought illegal immigration was bad now, by the time we got back all of Mexico would be here.


ha thats a good one...

You mean how Obama promised to pull out of Iraq?


One of his many promises...
TheTerminator
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[quote]I say we pull the troops and nuke 'em!
Great idea.

sonicheroes95
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-slits alpha's throat- try thinking of something less destuctive. or do you not use logic?

German3945
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They are very hard to track down, they can easily hide in the vast mountains and then they are almost impossible to find.
The problem is that they have contacts outside, so they can easily communicate with their fighters, if they are not isolated they will keep controlling every place where there aren't enough troops.


We killed a main leader of the Taliban earlier this year.
We can and will do it more times.

I have a situation for you: unmanned aircrafts. They fly so high you can't see them, and they could read an article of the newspaper in the middle of a street with the power of magnification they have. There will be many concentrated on Afghanistan. Afghanistan's desert. When the Taliban is moving around, they have to use cars & trucks, and vehicles + desert = tons of dust = we see them. The unmanned aircrafts see Taliban every day, and kill them every day.
Also, let's say were defending a village. We have an unmanned aircraft or two scanning the area. Any Taliban makes any movement, they're dead.
My point here is that it's not just our helpless troops questioning themselves as to where to go next.

As for the Taliban getting resources from outside forces, yes that's a huge problem. Occupying all the main villages will help lots, and cut of the Taliban's supplies, but we need to make sure that they have zero supplies. I'm not at clearance level to know for sure, but this is a major part of this war.

At an overall glance, what's the good parts of going in now? Taliban will only grow so sooner means easier, cheaper, safer, etc.
What are the bad parts?
ComradeGamer
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I think America should pull out the troops from Afghanistan. You guys have been there for a while, and it needs to stop. If you guys are willing to nagotiate with Talibans or atleast stop the war i'm sure that they will stop murdering people. Remember even if they are Terrorists their still are humans like us, if the Russians can stop the war with the Chechnyans, and nagotiate then the Americans should atleast stop the war and work it out.

German3945
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The problem with the Taliban is that they're not remotely interested in negotiating.

Also, if we leave now, it'll just be a growing problem and be harder to deal with later on, and the president will be solely blamed for the failure.

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