If god is a hyperevolved organism, god would have to have had a beginning.
Already addressed this. I believe I said something along the lines that he started counting at the beginning of the Big Bang, or at the moment he finished his hyper-evolution and the Big Crunch happened.
It doesn't. There is a space between each crunch-bang where there is no time, that obviously doesn't last any time due to the fact there's no time during that part. The crunch doesn't go directly to the bang - it has to re-reach critical mass.
But inbetween the Big Crunch and the Big Bang, all that mass is gathered into a single point in the universe, and that is still mass, therefore there is time. For there to be no time between Big Crunches and Big Bangs, all mass would have to disappear. At least, I think that's the definition of time right? As long as their is something in the universe that exists, there is time.
I have found the answer. Behold!
Seems like Michelangelo was only good on a canvas, not MS Paint.
But inbetween the Big Crunch and the Big Bang, all that mass is gathered into a single point in the universe, and that is still mass, therefore there is time. For there to be no time between Big Crunches and Big Bangs, all mass would have to disappear. At least, I think that's the definition of time right? As long as their is something in the universe that exists, there is time.
I don't think you understand the nature of the singularity. All of the mass is compressed *infinitely* and yes, time exists, but it does not extend outside of the singularity and as such doesn't affect it. It isn't acting on the singularity, it's containing inside it.
The fact that there is even a Bible is about proof enough.
Right, and Harry Potter proves that magic is real.
Write a Bible-sized book about him lying, then get a million people to believe an devote their life to it; then we'll talk.
So your only quandary with the validity of any idea is how many people 'believe' it's true?
That's a seriously substandard measuring stick.
As for providing one - I don't really have to. There's plenty of other 'holy' religious texts for you to fight with already. Aren't their books 'roof' that they're right?
Right, and Harry Potter proves that magic is real.
Yeah, except billions of people didn't decide that Harry Potter made magic real.
So your only quandary with the validity of any idea is how many people 'believe' it's true?
That's a seriously substandard measuring stick.
As for providing one - I don't really have to. There's plenty of other 'holy' religious texts for you to fight with already. Aren't their books 'roof' that they're right?
It seemed that was all I needed to say to counter your comment. As for other "religious books" I couldn't care less; I don't believe in God, just intelligent design.
Yeah, except billions of people didn't decide that Harry Potter made magic real.
Billions of people can't make a book real.
It seemed that was all I needed to say to counter your comment. As for other "religious books" I couldn't care less; I don't believe in God, just intelligent design.
You could not care less about the other just as likely to be true books? Have you ever called an atheist close minded... So, you believe humans were created by God, but you don't believe he exists, therefore he could not create us and we do not exist.
Yes, but something could make them believe it's real
You could not care less about the other just as likely to be true books? Have you ever called an atheist close minded... So, you believe humans were created by God, but you don't believe he exists, therefore he could not create us and we do not exist.
All right, I'm going to take this slow, just for you; I believe in intelligent design, not God. I believe something God-like made earth, not some random, inexplainable explosion, crunch, whatever.
The fact that there is even a Bible is about proof enough.
I don't believe in God, just intelligent design.
I hate to flame, but you have to be one of the worst debaters I've ever rubbed shoulders with. I'm not even going to bother discussing with you further. It's just... sad.
The fact that there is even a Bible is about proof enough.
Um, no. That reasoning sucks(sorry for me being harsh there, but it really does).
If that was correct, the Big Bang would have to be correct because there are veritable Bibles written about it.
Really, that's like saying that if someone claims something is real, the fact that he made the claim is proof enough.
Write a Bible-sized book about him lying, then get a million people to believe an devote their life to it; then we'll talk.
Lolol.
Or he could take the Joe Wilson route, take a piece of paper saying 'MageGrayWolf' on it, and record himself shouting 'YOU LIE!' at the piece of paper and make it a viral vid.
Already addressed this. I believe I said something along the lines that he started counting at the beginning of the Big Bang, or at the moment he finished his hyper-evolution and the Big Crunch happened.
Um, what? The Big Crunch causes time to reverse, and evolution doesn't carry over through different Universes. He would continue to evolve over the course of the Universe, then never reach God status until the Big Crunch.
Um, no. That reasoning sucks(sorry for me being harsh there, but it really does).
If that was correct, the Big Bang would have to be correct because there are veritable Bibles written about it.
Really, that's like saying that if someone claims something is real, the fact that he made the claim is proof enough.
Well, If those bibles of the big bang are good at proving it, then yes, they could work like that. Yea, kinda like when you claimed you were telling the truth, mister!
Um, what? The Big Crunch causes time to reverse, and evolution doesn't carry over through different Universes. He would continue to evolve over the course of the Universe, then never reach God status until the Big Crunch.
Nitpicker. I'll make it simple. Intelligent Design for me, not Evolution.
