While we can't prove him, you can't disprove him, making this something like a stalemate. Also, if an all-power super being does exist, I'm pretty sure that he could transcend the 3 dimensions of the universe, thus not being in the universe (Personally, I believe this transcendence of the 3rd dimension is the location of heaven, which is probably why we'll never find it.)
If God does exist it will be possible to prove his existence.
Yeah, but by saying the only one, that implies that the only one RIGHT NOW. Which opens up the realm for wondering: will there be more gods in the future? Were there past gods?
The only one implies that there is only one, it does not mention or imply any time frame at all.
And I hate your rather close mindedness, refusing to even consider the possibility of a God because we don't have tangible proof. Though, I'm sure if we found the ark of the covenant (probably got broken, or turned to dust due to it's age or something, so I doubt we'll ever find) that would be proof enough.
I considered the possibility of God many times, and believe it or not, the debates over god here were a main factor in me giving up my belief in god. Its not closed minded to ask for some proof before you believe something, if the ark of the covenant was discovered, and was proven to be the biblical one beyond a reasonable doubt I would consider it enough proof to become a sceptical Christian at the very least.
If God does exist it will be possible to prove his existence.
I'm sure if we keep looking for long enough and hard enough, we'll eventually find some evidence, just like everything else.
The only one implies that there is only one, it does not mention or imply any time frame at all.
Really? Cause I feel like it is saying that he's the only one currently. This opens up the realm of thinking: "Was there a God(s) before the one we have now? Will there be a God(s) in the future?" Though, by saying the one true God, he could just be meaning original or first as well, meaning that if other gods DO come after him, he'll still be the best.
I considered the possibility of God many times, and believe it or not, the debates over god here were a main factor in me giving up my belief in god. Its not closed minded to ask for some proof before you believe something, if the ark of the covenant was discovered, and was proven to be the biblical one beyond a reasonable doubt I would consider it enough proof to become a sceptical Christian at the very least.
Well I'm glad you've at least considered it unlike others. The refusal to even consider is probably one of the things that bug me the most when it comes to atheists. And I thought the ark was only claimed/rumored to be found in some orthodox church, as nobody has actually taken it out into the public...
Really? Cause I feel like it is saying that he's the only one currently. This opens up the realm of thinking: "Was there a God(s) before the one we have now? Will there be a God(s) in the future?" Though, by saying the one true God, he could just be meaning original or first as well, meaning that if other gods DO come after him, he'll still be the best.
I take 'One true God' as the only real god to have ever exist, meaning every other deity was/is a false idol.
I'm sure if we keep looking for long enough and hard enough, we'll eventually find some evidence, just like everything else.
That would be great. But until then seeing as we have no evidence for him existing it's reasonable to assume he doesn't.
Same as saying Zeus doesn't exist. We have no evidence he exists or ever did exist, so it's reasonable to assume he isn't real.
Well I'm glad you've at least considered it unlike others. The refusal to even consider is probably one of the things that bug me the most when it comes to atheists.
Actually most atheists do consider it. This same process rafterman refers to is how many atheists arrived at this conclusion.
you guys, when you think about it there is no point in talking about these thing over the computer cuz no one who thinks hard about this stuff is actually gonna switch over from a athiest to a christian or vice versa. althought the fact is that God duznt go by that law
you guys, when you think about it there is no point in talking about these thing over the computer cuz no one who thinks hard about this stuff is actually gonna switch over from a athiest to a christian or vice versa. althought the fact is that God duznt go by that law
I stopped believing in theistic ideologies in part because of people talking about these things over the computer.
rafterman said
I considered the possibility of God many times, and believe it or not, the debates over god here were a main factor in me giving up my belief in god.
So clearly we can influence individuals one way or the other in this fashion.
Yeah, or rafterman lied to make his case more believable.
That would still leave me. Unless your saying I'm lying as well, in which case you can go fornicate yourself with a cross or what ever other religious symbols you happen to have laying around.
