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Sssssnnaakke
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Polygamy. A huge families are made by having "it" a ton. Is it right? I man with 6 wives? Who has 45 grand children? Can you imagine? Anyways it interested me when I read National Geographic.


http://www.polygamy.com/

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deserteagle
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Why can't I have 6 wives? oh wait, that means 6 b***s yelling at me....

Ernie15
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oh wait, that means 6 b***s yelling at me....


This is why polygamy was designed specifically for deaf people.
Strop
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How about I kick off with a constructive remark?

Our modern society is geared towards favouring monogamous relationship models because they purport to hold the individual's right to life and liberty at its core. The upshot of this is that people think more about themselves, and therefore are more prone to acting on jealousy.

Polygamy therefore only generally works in societies which enforce some kind of communal subjugation. Pretty simple, no?

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Strop are you to write a book anytime soon? Your style of writing is so clean I can't help but think you use an uber search engine and illegaly copy and paste random stuff

To be honest, I've yet to meet a polygamous man in my life, either in America, Pakistan, or the few weeks I was in Malaysia on vacation.
Not sure where they live excluding rural parts of Arabia and they're leader [then again, if he quits going there's nobody to run government! ]

Considering I have learned enough about Asia, -- then where is the communal subjugation for -- lets say, Mormons (Not saying they all have tons of wives, etc, whatever) but I'm sure they accept it (at least some of them) -- where's the communal subjugation there? I'm sure that sort of American society isn't suppressing females, is it?

Also, I've got a question, too. Though there isn't a federal law for one, all fifty states outlaw polygamy. Is that right?
And strop, you never said in your own post whether you think its right.

Strop
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I mean, who wants to here about your best friend having a threesome and you only have one wife?


"...but I LIKE having only one wife!!!"

Also I don't like your implicit sexism. It's polygamy, not polygyny!!!!11!!1one >:O

best friend having a threesome and you only have one partner


...so I made it more PC for you :3
Armed_Blade
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"...but I LIKE having only one wife!!!"

You didn't imply whether you don't like threesomes...
So kirby has a point!
Strop
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Strop are you to write a book anytime soon?


If I do, I nominate Gantic to be my editor-in-chief. Actually with any luck, my first medical research paper will be published sometime this year.

Your style of writing is so clean


Years of condensing sentences because people tuned out so frequently from long-windedness will do that to you!

Not sure where they live


One recent infamous example was the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints group. I'm pretty sure they've been (technically) shut down though.

And strop, you never said in your own post whether you think its right.


That's because I don't have an answer >:3
Strop
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You didn't imply whether you don't like threesomes...
So kirby has a point!


Well, I could have one wife but be in an "open" relationship...

...or I could be a swinger :P
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I tend to dislike polygamy. You know why? It offends my cultural values of importance of individual life and liberty. That's pretty much it in a nut shell. I'm particularly offended by the misogyny I find to be inherent in the system (if someone can find me an example of a polygamous culture that has a more open system than one man with many wives, I'd love to read about it!), but the communal subjugation Strop mentioned doesn't sit well with me either.

Not that this is something I've thought about or researched thoroughly. I read the Nat Geo article mentioned in the OP, and the above were my first opinions.

Strop
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You know why? It offends my cultural values of importance of individual life and liberty.


Which nicely demonstrates my first post in this thread :3

I'm particularly offended by the misogyny I find to be inherent in the system


I am fairly sure there is at least one culture which practices polyandryny... but I can't remember any now, and they'd surely be in the vast minority!
Freakenstein
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Honestly, you have to think about it in the wives' perspectives. She loves this man, but 8 others do as well, and you're in a "committed relationship" with him. Extreme jealousy could be involved in most of the wives' minds, how they want to get at each others' throats for also being the man's wife.

I'm trying to get this at a stretch, but I can't properly put this in a moral perspective without getting debunked for my contradictions

What we need right now is a girl involved in this discussion, see if their viewpoint is any different than ours. Strop go fetch Zoph for me pwease? :3

Xzeno
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Which nicely demonstrates my first post in this thread :3
My similar diction was no accident.

I am fairly sure there is at least one culture which practices polyandryny... but I can't remember any now, and they'd surely be in the vast minority!
Wikipedia has a few examples. It appears to be mostly "fraternal polyandry", which is brothers sharing a wife. I don't like this because... once again, mostly cultural values, but I also liken it to incest.

Of course, the sexism of polyandry would offend me as much* as the polygyny. If polygamy was a two way street, I'd be more open to it. Of course, in some cultures it might be. It's not like I did any research.

* I won't lie: I'm more offended by misogyny than other forms of sexism. I shouldn't be, but I am.
Strop
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Extreme jealousy could be involved in most of the wives' minds, how they want to get at each others' throats for also being the man's wife.


You should watch the TV drama Big Love.

I'm more offended by misogyny than other forms of sexism.


Positive discrimination, perhaps?
Xzeno
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Honestly, you have to think about it in the wives' perspectives. She loves this man, but 8 others do as well, and you're in a "committed relationship" with him. Extreme jealousy could be involved in most of the wives' minds, how they want to get at each others' throats for also being the man's wife.
I'll recommend a different media source: This issue was covered in the National Geographic: Jealousy is not common, according to women in polygamous marriages. Unlike TV drama, this is simply their culture.

Issue? Cover? National Geographic? Come on, that was gold!

What we need right now is a girl involved in this discussion, see if their viewpoint is any different than ours.
... Nevermind.

Positive discrimination, perhaps?
In practice, maybe. On principle, it seems to go against the ideals of equality I support so strongly.
Armed_Blade
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Maybe, but some people with extremely rich cultural ties to their polygamist relationships do actually call it one.
If you look up
'Mormonism and Polygamy' -- actually, wait, I'll wiki you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy

Just ignore the writing, my point lies in a picture as you scroll down. It shows a few women supporting polygamy in Mormonism in Salt lake City.
You may see it as a way to get great sex and [since I don't really support it for myself personally] but they probably don't. Its infused in their culture, and either A) Your right, they lead crap lives or B) They may see it differently.

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