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batistarocks6969
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well if any of u r familiar with the law of conservation and mass, then u know that it states that matter cannot be created from nothing, or completely destroyed. so evolutionists say this, then turn around and say the big bang created the universe as we know it. WTF!!?!?!?!the universe went from non existent to existent in a fraction of a nanosecond! and where did the bigbang come from? nothing? nope, because if the law of conservation and mass is true, then the bigbang isnt. simple...

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thingthingfreak
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It wasn't an atom, it was a super-compression of all of the mass in the Universe.
Question for Christianity: What verifies the Bible?


Question for you- what verifies your theory?

There is no way to prove all of this. But by looking at stars that are so far away, that we see them the way they were when a the big bang happened (if it did happen) scientists might be able to decipher some clues on how everything was created.
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@thingthingfreak: a summary.

fourtytwo
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It wasn't an atom, it was a super-compression of all of the mass in the Universe.
...no arguing yet. We aren't quite done. I didn't say it was an atom either. The thing about the atom...atoms are mostly made of empty space, so that is how all the mass was compressed?

Questions about the Big Bang:
1. How was the entire universe squashed down to a mini-microscopic particle? (Is there really that much empty space in an atom?
2. What triggered the Big Bang?
3. What verifies the Big Bang?
Against the Big Bang:
1.
Questions about Christianity:
1. What proof is their that an all knowing omnipresent creature exists?
2. How did God start? How did time start?
What verifies the Bible?
Against Christianity:
1.

Remember...don't argue until we agree that the list is finished!
thisisnotanalt
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Against Christianity: Many of the stories in the Bible do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.

Ninjacube
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Against Big Band: Many theories of Big Bang do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.

fourtytwo
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Big Band? lol...I'm sure that was a typo. I've seen worse...like Big Gang

Questions about the Big Bang:
1. How was the entire universe squashed down to a mini-microscopic particle? (Is there really that much empty space in an atom?
2. What triggered the Big Bang?
3. What verifies the Big Bang?
4.
Against the Big Bang:
1. Many theories of Big Bang do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.
2.
Questions about Christianity:
1. What proof is their that an all knowing omnipresent creature exists?
2. How did God start? How did time start? (whoever added these made the two questions sound related, so I put them together)
3. What verifies the Bible?
4.
Against Christianity:
1. Many of the stories in the Bible do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.
2.

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I took issue with these statements:

1. Many theories of Big Bang do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.


1. What proof is their that an all knowing omnipresent creature exists?


1. Many of the stories in the Bible do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.


It is a fallacy for evidence or proof to be nescessary to hold a belief, because if it were nescessary, it would not be a belief.

In relation to this debate on the big bang, sceintific proof on the matter does not disprove the existance of God, because disproving a negative is impossible. However there is no scientific evidence indcating the existance of a God.
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...No arguing yet -_-

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This is really random but I just saw that there might be a huge asteroid heading towards earth and if it hits it would be in 2012. It's really wierd caseu there is also another asteroid that could pass right in front ande stop it.

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There must have been a God to create the Universe, "It's" intentions, however, remain unclear.

Royadin
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squirrels comment on page one is ridiculous... stuuuuuuuuppiiiddd...

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squirrels comment on page one is ridiculous... stuuuuuuuuppiiiddd...

Why is it that when someone mentions evolution or the big bang theory some people assume they're automatically implying god does not exist? I don't believe scientific evidence has ever shown, or tried to show, there is no god. Science provides us with information on the mechanisms for how god's machine actually works. I'm sorry for the bible thumpers that believe genesis is a literal account of creation written by some man a couple thousand years ago. The earth really isn't six thousand years old. Arguing against science with a book that has no basis in reality is asinine. People need to stop trying to separate science, god, humans and the rest of the universe. The universe is just a physical manifestation of the true spiritual existence.


What specifically is stupid about it?
thisisnotanalt
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It is a fallacy for evidence or proof to be nescessary to hold a belief, because if it were nescessary, it would not be a belief.

But it is not belief here, it is the theories themselves that we are talking about, and evidence is in fact imperative for a theory to be proven. Misinterpretations. . . .
fourtytwo
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wow...we got off track FAST!!!
just to get us back to finishing what we were about to begin...

Questions about the Big Bang:
1. How was the entire universe squashed down to a mini-microscopic particle? (Is there really that much empty space in an atom?
2. What triggered the Big Bang?
3. What verifies the Big Bang?
4.
Against the Big Bang:
1. Many theories of Big Bang do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.
2.
Questions about Christianity:
1. What proof is their that an all knowing omnipresent creature exists?
2. How did God start? How did time start? (whoever added these made the two questions sound related, so I put them together)
3. What verifies the Bible?
4.
Against Christianity:
1. Many of the stories in the Bible do not have sufficient evidence to back them up.
2.

Let's keep adding to the list. No trying to prove either belief. We have tried that already. It doesn't work. Right now, we are disproving both with as many things as we can think of, then removing the list items that don't make sense. When we are done with that, we will see what we are left with. Remember: NO ARGUING UNTIL THE LIST IS COMPLETE!!!

thisisnotanalt
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Against Christianity: There have been many cataclysmic events outlined in the Bible, yet none of them have left any discernible mark.
Also against Christianity: Who framed Roger Rabbit?

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