The CRISTIAN SITUATION is what i would call the revealing of how strong of a Christan you are. The question here is directed towards Christians, but can apply to all religions. There have been instances where a person held a gun to anther's head and told them to say that they didn't believe in GOD. This person was a Christan and refused to and was killed, was this faithfulness, stupidity, suicide, what do you think of this situation, and how would you react?
What you describe as 'The Christian Situation' isn't that much about religion actually.
The question is more like 'if someone held a gun to your head, and he would kill you if you didn't denounce something you truely believed in... what would you do?'
Personally, I think it's quite brave to die for something you truely believe in. It doesn't matter if it didn't make a great impact in the order of things, but at least it's for a right reason, rather than for something you didn't believe in or didn't care about.
The question is more like 'if someone held a gun to your head, and he would kill you if you didn't denounce something you truely believed in... what would you do?'
That is what i was going for, I just used Christian because this is a particular case i used as an example.
[quote]The question is more like 'if someone held a gun to your head, and he would kill you if you didn't denounce something you truely believed in... what would you do?'
That is what i was going for, I just used Christian because this is a particular case i used as an example.[/quote]
I figured as much... might not have been a great idea to name your thread the way you did, since a lot of people skim over the topic titles and might avoid religion-themed topics
This person was very faithful because a Christian would not deny God for it says in The Bible Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
okay heres the deal. the church was originally set up to make money. if thats not an issue to u then u must be having some serious issues. therefore christianity/the church=fraud
okay heres the deal. the church was originally set up to make money. if thats not an issue to u then u must be having some serious issues. therefore christianity/the church=fraud
I understand where your coming from but back in the "Bible days" the main and dominant church was that of the times world rulers. Such as Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Chaldea, Persia, and Rome. All very wicked and ungodly nations. Hence their lust for power and money. The church was in no way related to God or Christianity.
Religion derives from corrupted churches. In the olden days, priests would demand individuals to pay large sums of money for masses, which would apparantly grant them a higher place in heaven.
The church was in no way related to God or Christianity.
The chuch is always related to God. The chuch is, in essence, the manifestation of God. Just because they stray from their appearance of justice doesn't automatically disconnect them from religion.
The church is always related to God. The chuch is, in essence, the manifestation of God. Just because they stray from their appearance of justice doesn't automatically disconnect them from religion.
the old church used God as a cover up to make money, unlike now adays people where more gullible and the space between the rich and the pore was far greater allowing this to happen.
That is what i was going for, I just used Christian because this is a particular case i used as an example.
Not the best of plans, perhaps. Could you remake it with a more general sounding OP like the one Pixelsmash suggested? Because it seems that people are more willing to argue about religion in general instead of the situation you brought up, and that is obviously biasing pretty much everyone who have been replying.
As for the question, I find it to be rather brave. It goes against the nature of human beings. Which too makes it foolish to some. Why keep something dear to you, when you can keep your life. But I don't think it is a question easily or honestly answered. It is an extreme situation which we have a hard time imagining (personally, at least), thus basing our reply on something else in the equation (him being stupid because he was a Christian, him being brave because he died for his faith).
Anyway: Remake thread in more general terms as to stop these pointless arguments that are more or less unrelated to the question, and there will probably be some more thought through.
